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WbranchMarch 10th, 2019, 2:51 pm
York & Starlight PA

Posts: 2459
Recently I have been reading, and becoming interested in, Euro nymphing techniques, flies, lines, leaders, sighters, and of course rods. I was wondering if anyone in our illustrious group of fly fishers has delved into the relatively new technique and if so what rod, or rods, have you bought. I'm most interested in how long a rod you are fishing, whether the reel seat is up, or down, lock, whether or not it is fast, medium, or on the slower side, and why you chose that rod? What attributes made you select that rod over others. I may buy a rod but since this technique would be (for me at least) a fill-in when fish aren't rising I don't want to spend more than $500. Thanks!
Catskill fly fisher for fifty-five years.
AdirmanMarch 11th, 2019, 4:28 pm
Monticello, NY

Posts: 470
Matt; for euro nymphing, I like a long light rod with a soft tip and relatively slow action for heightened strike detection. I bought an 11’ 3 wt and although I haven’t used it yet , I’ve fished other rods of that size and weight and found it to be optimal for me . Reel should be small and light as well, I like a 3 weight to balance my setup. Longer rods , ie, longer than the standard 9’ are advantageous for nymphing because it’s always better to reach out to the fish with little to no flyline on or in the water to eliminate drag and compromise strike detection. Hope this helps
WbranchMarch 11th, 2019, 5:43 pm
York & Starlight PA

Posts: 2459
David,

I bought an 11’ 3 wt


Who is the manufacturer and do you remember how much it cost?
Catskill fly fisher for fifty-five years.
AdirmanMarch 12th, 2019, 12:26 pm
Monticello, NY

Posts: 470
I actually deal with a guy in Chicago who makes my rods for me. He uses Sage blanks sonits pretty much a sage rod I guess but he builds from scratch. Want his contact info?
WbranchMarch 12th, 2019, 4:13 pm
York & Starlight PA

Posts: 2459
David,

Want his contact info?


Sage blanks are too rich for my pocketbook. I looked at a very nice Orvis Clearwater today, 10' #3, for $189 list. My buddy can get it for around $110. The rep at the fly shop said the Orvis Recon (he has one) 10' #3 is at least 5X the rod the Clearwater is in regard to actual fishing characteristics and aesthetics. I went to Bass Pro first and saw a Cabela's 10' #3 CZN and it was tip heavy. Then I went to a local fly shop (TCO for you PA guys) and handled the new Clearwater 10' #3. It is $30 less than the Cabela's CZN (or whatever it is called) and it is a heck of a nicer rod.
Catskill fly fisher for fifty-five years.
IasgairMarch 14th, 2019, 7:16 am
Colorado

Posts: 132
Hey Matt, I looked into the Cabelas CZN rods myself a few years back, and the one thing that kept coming up on the reviews by people who have purchased them had a pattern of the rods breaking in the middle section. Too many reviews said that from different sources for my liking.

The Clearwater would be a nicer set up no doubt, and rest assured thatif anything happens to the Clearwater, Orvis has a very reputable warranty. And I have to agree with what the rep said about the Recon.
MartinlfMarch 17th, 2019, 5:55 am
Moderator
Palmyra PA

Posts: 2863
Interesting. I like my CZN 10' 4 Wt and have had no problems with it in about 6 years. I've talked to other guys who feel the same way. Perhaps we're just lucky. If it does break, my experiences with Cabelas and rods (I broke a spinning rod way back, but no others) have been good. They stand behind their rods too. That said, I'm sure the Orvis rod is a fine one. I also have an Echo shadow 10' 3W I picked up from Sierra Trading post, and I love it. It's light, and it has plenty of backbone. I sold a Grey's Streamflex 3W a while back because it felt too noodly for me.
"He spread them a yard and a half. 'And every one that got away is this big.'"

--Fred Chappell
WbranchMarch 17th, 2019, 6:27 am
York & Starlight PA

Posts: 2459
Louis,

I like my CZN 10' 4 Wt and have had no problems with it in about 6 years.


It's just my opinion and you know what they say about opinions. If you have an opportunity to handle a Clearwater 10' #3 you will see it is very light and there is virtually no tip droop.
Catskill fly fisher for fifty-five years.
AdirmanMarch 17th, 2019, 9:21 am
Monticello, NY

Posts: 470
I would love to try a Streamflex , hear g ood things about them . For me, that noodlely feel is optimal for euro nymphing. I think it helps with strike detection and feel; only downside is no power for longer casts but you’re not really doin that anyway most of the time
WbranchMarch 17th, 2019, 10:35 am
York & Starlight PA

Posts: 2459
David wrote;

that noodlely feel is optimal for euro nymphing. I think it helps with strike detection and feel;


That is a very good point. However I have a Zen connection with things piscatorial and often can sense the approach of a trout to my offering.
Catskill fly fisher for fifty-five years.
WiflyfisherMarch 17th, 2019, 10:40 am
Wisconsin

Posts: 600
I just received a Hardy Zephrus AWS 10ft 4wt. I am dying to try it as soon as the snow is gone around here.
John S.
https://WiFlyFisher.com
IasgairMarch 17th, 2019, 3:20 pm
Colorado

Posts: 132
Some people like a fast tipped rod for Euro style, but being that close to the fish I prefer a med/fast action rod with a softish tip because it helps with feel and I don't lose as many fish.

I use a Scott A4 10' 4wt, and I like the action very much for Czech nymphing. I just wish Scott made them in a 3wt. But it's a very versatile rod being a 4wt.

Find a rod that feels comfortable to hold out straight if you plan on doing any Polish/ Czeh style nymphing. Light weight is key so your arm and shoulder won't tire out too quick. If tip heavy, get a bigger reel to overcome that issue.
WbranchMarch 17th, 2019, 4:32 pm
York & Starlight PA

Posts: 2459
Iasgair wrote;

I just wish Scott made them in a 3wt. But it's a very versatile rod being a 4wt.


Since Euro nymphing does not really cast the line in the traditional sense why don't you just underline the rod with a WF#3?

When I fished a few days ago I wasn't going to go out and buy a specialty rod and find out I didn't enjoy the technique. I used my 1st generation Sage Light Line Series 9' #4 and underlined it with a #3 I had on a Hardy Featherweight reel I rarely use. Since I rarely had any line beyond the tip top it worked fine. That LL rod is what would be considered a full flex with a soft tip.
Catskill fly fisher for fifty-five years.
MartinlfMarch 19th, 2019, 12:52 pm
Moderator
Palmyra PA

Posts: 2863
I tight line a lot with a Cabela's 9' 3W LsI rod and it works for me. I especially like this choice if I anticipate rising fish; if a hatch starts it's easy to switch out spools and fish dries. I'm not a fan of using a 10' rod for dry fly fishing, but have done it, and have friends who prefer it. The LsI is considered a medium fast to fast rod.
"He spread them a yard and a half. 'And every one that got away is this big.'"

--Fred Chappell

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