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87NorthMay 9th, 2020, 7:23 am
New York

Posts: 3
I've only fished an 8wt for steelhead/salmon, and would like to get a smaller rod for smaller streams. Wanted to know what you guys sugggest. I have no brand preferences or bias. I want something with decent backbone when casting/fast action.

- $500 budget for both rod and reel. You can go a little over, $50 +/- is reasonable.

- Not interested in Fiberglass rods

- 5wt.

- Primarily fishing small to medium sized Adirondack rivers, and small ponds for trout, smallmouth, panfish, etc.

- 8.5ft~9ft rod. 4 piece preferred for traveling purposes.
- Echo ION XL 8wt Rod // Ion 7-9wt Reel // Steelhead & Salmon
- St. Croix Triumph Light Rod // Daiwa BG 2000 Reel
Jmd123May 9th, 2020, 10:54 am
Oscoda, MI

Posts: 2470
Why, with those parameters, you have a million of them! That's about as standard a trout rod as you can get and you'll find them in any price range you want. For the smaller creeks and ponds I recommend a 7 1/2-foot 3-weight, as you will have trouble fishing brushy creeks with a 9-footer, and the 3-weight line falls more delicately on shallow, clear waters. Just my 2 cents! Good luck finding a stick (or two or five) that works for you.

Jonathon
No matter how big the one you just caught is, there's always a bigger one out there somewhere...
WbranchMay 9th, 2020, 6:22 pm
York & Starlight PA

Posts: 2628
As Jonathon mentioned with a $500 budget you have many options and choices. At that price point there are quite a few good makers with lesser prices rods that will perform nicely for trout. Orvis has a nice combo called the "Encounter" that you can get for $160 rod, reel, line, and rod case. I've mentored two guys and recommended that for them and the rod is very nice.

Cabela's offers some nice combo's that can be purchased for $500 or if you prefer you can mix and match. Buy a rod from one maker, a reel, from another, and a line from yet another. I could pick an outfit for you but you might want to look on line for a comparison of 9' #5 rods. Different fly shops do these "rod shootouts" every few years. They typically sound unbiased but I'd be careful if they are selling any the rods they list in the top three. There are also YouTube videos with rod comparisons and evaluations. Hope that helps.
Catskill fly fisher for fifty-five years.
Jmd123May 10th, 2020, 6:10 am
Oscoda, MI

Posts: 2470
I can vouch for Cabelas fly tackle, been using it for decades and they make pretty good stuff for not a whole lotta money. Always remember, skill is far more important than the price of your equipment! But, you will always need equipment that performs up to your skill level too. I prefer a fast graphite stick, and there's just hundreds out there in the $100-$500 price range. My advice is shop the sales and bargains and get the most expensive stuff you can within your price range when it goes on sale! Though a different hobby, I recently nailed a whole lot of sales and used equipment for astronomy (a pastime which can cost you some serious $$$) and now I am equipped like never before, and literally saved thousands over full non-sale, non-used prices.

As I said, best of luck in finding the perfect stuff for your needs, it's out there somewhere.

Jonathon
No matter how big the one you just caught is, there's always a bigger one out there somewhere...
RleePMay 10th, 2020, 7:45 am
NW PA - Pennsylvania's Glacial Pothole Wonderland

Posts: 398
I see you evidently already have one Echo Rod. IMO, you could do a lot worse than to explore what they have to offer in the smaller water trout rod you're looking for. I think Echo offers one of the best bangs for the buck there is to be had. Decent prices and very good rods. I have two Echos. I'm pretty sure they also offer package or outfit setups and, while I don't have any of their reels, I've heard nothing but good stuff about their reels as well as their rods.

FWIW..

Red_green_hMay 11th, 2020, 1:24 pm
New Mexico

Posts: 61
I remember being in the same boat when I first started. I went to a local sportman's store and the fishing expert turned me onto a Redington Path combo. I've loved their gear since. It's probably not the best, probably not the worst but I can catch fish with it so I'm happy. Anyways if I go out and get skunked it's not cause of my gear, it's because of me. The Vice rod is a fast action rod for $200. Pair it with one of their reels for about $400 total. Redington is pretty decent equipment. It's really all I have save a red-headed step child or 2 in the arsenal. That original path combo (a 4wt 8' rod) I bought was for $180. I changed the line out on it this spring and intend to catch more fish with it.
Red_green_hMay 11th, 2020, 1:29 pm
New Mexico

Posts: 61
I recommend a 7 1/2-foot 3-weight

Over the winter I got a new 7'6" 3 wt set up. I went up to the mountains last week and tried it out. I absolutely loved the way it presented anything I put on it. From dries to San Juan worms even with an indicator. It did not disappoint.

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