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FredHSeptember 6th, 2011, 10:07 am
Lake Charles , Louisiana

Posts: 108

If you fish with beetles you can make the basic beetle shape using just thread and monofilament.

Then you can use permanent markers to color the fly to fit the species in your area. Coat it with flexament and it will float. Coat it with hard head cement and it will sink slowly.
http://www.realisticflytying.net
Jmd123September 6th, 2011, 4:03 pm
Oscoda, MI

Posts: 2384
GREAT technique, Fred! Thanks for showing us. I need to tie some beetles so perhaps I will give that a try. Another beautiful fly! I bet those big fat southern sunfish smack 'em hard! How fun is that?

Jonathon
No matter how big the one you just caught is, there's always a bigger one out there somewhere...
EntomanSeptember 6th, 2011, 4:07 pm
Northern CA & ID

Posts: 2604
Fred,

Where's a photo of the finished fly? I see the two naturals....:)

Excellent job.

Kurt
"It's not that I find fishing so important, it's just that I find all other endeavors of Man equally unimportant... And not nearly as much fun!" Robert Traver, Anatomy of a Fisherman
Jmd123September 6th, 2011, 4:12 pm
Oscoda, MI

Posts: 2384
Kurt, coulda fooled me too - it almost looks like he has the correct tarsal formula incorporated! Hmmmm, family Chrysomelidae?

Jonathon
No matter how big the one you just caught is, there's always a bigger one out there somewhere...
FredHSeptember 6th, 2011, 5:58 pm
Lake Charles , Louisiana

Posts: 108
Thanks Kurt and Jonathon , mono is an excelent tying material that we often overlook.
Fred
http://www.realisticflytying.net
JesseSeptember 7th, 2011, 1:52 am
Posts: 378
I agree with Kurt man those beetles look real, and GREAT!!! Nice job and nice pattern!
Most of us fish our whole lives..not knowing its not the fish that we are after.
http://www.filingoflyfishing.com
FredHSeptember 7th, 2011, 11:03 am
Lake Charles , Louisiana

Posts: 108
Thanks Jesse ,kind of you to say.
Fred
http://www.realisticflytying.net
JOHNWSeptember 7th, 2011, 6:36 pm
Chambersburg, PA

Posts: 452
Fred,

Where's a photo of the finished fly? I see the two naturals....:)

Excellent job.

Kurt


Not joking I seriously was wondering where the finished flies were!!!!!!
Then I zoomed in on the first pic and spotted the hookeye.
Awsome ties.
"old habits are hard to kill once you have gray in your beard" -Old Red Barn
FredHSeptember 8th, 2011, 9:53 am
Lake Charles , Louisiana

Posts: 108
Thanks John these are fun little ties.
Fred
http://www.realisticflytying.net
Shawnny3September 8th, 2011, 8:53 pm
Moderator
Pleasant Gap, PA

Posts: 1197
These are really beautiful flies, Fred. What a great shape you've achieved with that second one.

-Shawn
Jewelry-Quality Artistic Salmon Flies, by Shawn Davis
www.davisflydesigns.com
FredHSeptember 9th, 2011, 10:29 am
Lake Charles , Louisiana

Posts: 108
Thanks Shawn . You can make a beetle any size , shape or color you want . Just add a piece of mono here and there ,wrap with thread and if you wanted one that would float high in the water ,just substitute deer hair for some of the mono. Just make sure not to compress it too much when you tie it down.
Fred
http://www.realisticflytying.net
OldredbarnSeptember 9th, 2011, 11:37 am
Novi, MI

Posts: 2591
Fred,

I have a couple new ones for you to try...This morning on the window of our office is a praying mantis that is 3"+! Last night as I was turning off the porch light to head off to bed, on the glass window next to the front door, a very large katydid was hanging out.

This guy on the front window is so long I'm not sure I'd have a hook long enough to cover him properly. Can you imagine either one of these guys falling from an overhanging shrub to the water just ahead of a monster Brown?! Yahoo!

I'm not sure or not whether the cooler rainy weather we've been having hasn't drove these two from the trees for some reason. I have seen the mantis' hunting before on the warmed brick of the building, but on the building they lose the camouflage edge of the trees.

The katydid had a beautiful light olive body and the wings looked like a perfect leaf, colored dark green.

Well good luck :)! I'll need 20 dozen by Monday! :)

Spence

"Even when my best efforts fail it's a satisfying challenge, and that, after all, is the essence of fly fishing." -Chauncy Lively

"Envy not the man who lives beside the river, but the man the river flows through." Joseph T Heywood
Jmd123September 9th, 2011, 11:55 am
Oscoda, MI

Posts: 2384
Spence, I tie a katydid pattern that is just an all-leaf-green grasshopper. However, I'm sure Fred will outdo me by a light-year...his will have the proper venation in the wings and the correct number of segments in the antennae!

Jonathon
No matter how big the one you just caught is, there's always a bigger one out there somewhere...
FredHSeptember 13th, 2011, 9:51 am
Lake Charles , Louisiana

Posts: 108
Spence it looks as if I missed the Monday deadline but I've been meaning to tie up a katydid pattern . David Martin and I will be holding an online realistic tying class starting this Thursday . We will start with a pallid winged grasshopper . But we will also teach how these same techniques used to tie this pattern can be slightly altered to tie any species of hopper or cricket.You should come and join so you can tie your own it's free and open to everyone.
http://www.realisticflytying.net
OldredbarnSeptember 13th, 2011, 11:10 am
Novi, MI

Posts: 2591
Spence it looks as if I missed the Monday deadline


And here I thought you could just whip them bad boys out...;)

What time is the class? Do we follow your link there at the bottom of your posts? I'm not much of a realistic tyer but I feel we can always learn something from other folks that we may be able to use ourselves down the line somewhere. I have learned some interesting things from Oliver Edward's "Master Class" book but I still don't tie like he does...I hate to admit it, but by-and-large I'm a "guide fly" kind of tyer.

I have picked up a lot of neat ideas from hanging around shows and watching other guys tie. Everyone has developed their own ways of handling a particular problem. We aren't alone out here and I have had eureka moments watching someone else who has solved something.

Thanks for the invite!

Spence
"Even when my best efforts fail it's a satisfying challenge, and that, after all, is the essence of fly fishing." -Chauncy Lively

"Envy not the man who lives beside the river, but the man the river flows through." Joseph T Heywood
FredHSeptember 13th, 2011, 11:42 am
Lake Charles , Louisiana

Posts: 108
The class is on the Fly Tyer Magazine Forum . And I agree we all learn from each other. Even if you don't want to fish realistic flies you might learn something that can be incooperated into one of your older patterns to give it a new twist.Or you may learn how to make a fly more durrable. In any case we hope that everyone who attends will learn something new and of value.Here's a link :http://forums.flytyer.com/forum/18-realistic-tying/9915-realistic-fly-tying-class
http://www.realisticflytying.net
OldredbarnSeptember 13th, 2011, 12:42 pm
Novi, MI

Posts: 2591
We will be starting the first class on Thursday the 15th at 8:00 pm Eastern time.


Fred...I just thought I'd post the time of your class Thursday and if folks are interested they can follow the link you provided me above.

Thanks again!

Spence
"Even when my best efforts fail it's a satisfying challenge, and that, after all, is the essence of fly fishing." -Chauncy Lively

"Envy not the man who lives beside the river, but the man the river flows through." Joseph T Heywood
FredHSeptember 15th, 2011, 9:50 am
Lake Charles , Louisiana

Posts: 108
Thanks spence . Just a reminder everyone. If you would like to learn how to tie a realistic grasshopper follow the realistic coloumn on the fly tyer magazine forum starting tonight at 7 cst . David Martin and I will give first hand instruction and answer your questions and guide you through this pattern. We will showcase a pallid winged grasshopper but will also show how to use the same techniques to change the pattern to tie any grasshopper or cricket you want. 7 pm cst is when we will start uploading the pattern photos, but if you can't be online then ,not to worry.The material will stay up in sequence so that tiers can start and move at their own speed as their schedule allows.

Fred
http://www.realisticflytying.net
Aaron7_8September 17th, 2011, 10:17 pm
Helena Montana

Posts: 115
I am constantly blown away by your pictures. Nice work
FredHSeptember 21st, 2011, 1:58 pm
Lake Charles , Louisiana

Posts: 108
Thanks alot Aaron, I really appreciate the compliment.
Fred
http://www.realisticflytying.net
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