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Taxon	July 7th, 2006, 11:49 am
Site Editor Royse City, TX Posts: 1350	Jason- Not to despair; this is what American Stoneflies: A Photographic Guide to the Plecoptera by Bill P. Stark, Stanley W. Szezytko, and C. Ridley Nelson has to say about genus Arcynopteryx: "This genus is represented in North America by A. compacta (McLachlan). This species ranges from Alaska to Maine and has been reported as far south as Colorado. Males usually have shortened wings and are easily recognized by the long, lash-like epiproct tip. Females and nymphs are quite similar to Skwala. A. compacta has been collected around alpine lakes in the northern Rocky Mountains. No photographs are available for this group." Also, Arcynopteryx compacta is listed by Stark/Baumann as residing in New York.
	Best regards, Roger Rohrbeck www.FlyfishingEntomology.com
Troutnut	July 7th, 2006, 12:08 pm
Administrator Bellevue, WA Posts: 2737	Thanks! It's probably A. compacta then. I like the genus name.
	Jason Neuswanger, Ph.D. Troutnut and salmonid ecologist
Myersl	April 8th, 2010, 7:26 am
Plattsburgh, NY Posts: 5	Jason, This appears to be Cultus verticalis, although without examining the actual specimen or seeing adults, I can’t be sure. The color pattern is very striking in comparison to nymphs preserved in ethanol. I have collected adults of Cultus verticalis and Cultus decisus decisus from several streams in the Catskills. There are two species of Cultus in New York, Cultus decisus decisus (in large rivers) and Cultus verticalis (in small to medium sized streams). Arcynopteryx compacta is very uncommon in NY.
	myersl
Entoman	November 9th, 2011, 5:02 am
Northern CA & ID Posts: 2604	Great photos, Jason. There seems to have been a lot of back and forth on this determination over the years. I stumbled across these conversations while researching something else and quickly became interested. Trying to tie three different threads together back into one conversation is probably impossible, but worth a try. How they got separated in the first place, I have no idea. Anyway, the fortunate thing is that your quality photos teamed up with a good specimen (that shows some key characters unambiguously) makes this fun and worth revisiting. It's my understanding that one of the most important set of characters helpful in separating out the various genera of the Perlodidae can be found on the mesosternum and somehow they weren't discussed much regarding this specimen. The third photo shows these characters in great detail and I think that's where you went wrong in the M & C keys. In one of the couplets you were given a choice between whether the Y-arms met the anterior or posterior corners of the furcal pits. I think you chose anterior which led you to Arcynopterx and away from Isogenoides. You missed by only one couplet!:) I think Loyd is right about Isogenoides - the terga and head markings match to a tee. The size is right too. Isogenoides has a median longitudinal suture running from the stem to the transverse suture between the Y-arms creating a three point contact. Your specimen also has this character. The other genera mentioned as possibilities have issues with this and other Y-arm characters as well as the gill character Lloyd mentioned. Regards, Kurt
	"It's not that I find fishing so important, it's just that I find all other endeavors of Man equally unimportant... And not nearly as much fun!" Robert Traver, Anatomy of a Fisherman

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