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AndFebruary 22nd, 2007, 10:43 am

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Hello Jason, compliments for your web.
I found this one in alpine stream in Austria - Europe, I
guess it could be a tricoptera ? I discovered it under a peabble (2nd pic) and portayed it on white surface in the 1st pic, any suggestion ?
Thanks and Greetings

GONZOFebruary 22nd, 2007, 10:57 am
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Not like any Trichoptera I've ever seen--perhaps a beetle larva?
AndFebruary 22nd, 2007, 11:19 am

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One more thing, it was around 1 cm long,


SerotoninFebruary 22nd, 2007, 12:07 pm
Posts: 6Hi guys.
This is my first post.

First, I'd like to say that I've really enjoyed this site since its inception, and I like it even more w/the new format. There is an incredible wealth of knowledge here.

I have encountered the bug pictured above, in a New York stream. I don't recall it's Latin name, but if memory serves, in Schwiebert's "Nymphs" he refers to it as a Snipe Fly Larva. I have also heard it called a Water Sprite.

I don't have the Nymphs book in front of me, but here's some photos I took a few winters ago. When disturbed, the things would thrash wildly until able to gain a foothold on something. I am considering making highly articulated larvae to mimic this behavior. Appx 1.5 cm.

Pictures Here
GONZOFebruary 22nd, 2007, 12:21 pm
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Good call, Serotonin. It does look like the Atherix larvae. Maybe David or Roger can nail this one down.
SerotoninFebruary 22nd, 2007, 12:26 pm
Posts: 6Please excuse the following dumb question.
How do I post the images here...?
TaxonFebruary 22nd, 2007, 12:55 pm
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Best regards,
Roger Rohrbeck
TroutnutFebruary 22nd, 2007, 1:35 pm
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Yeah, I'm pretty sure this one is the genus Atherix in the family Athericidae. Serotonin's pics are Athericidae but probably not Atherix. They're all called "snipe flies" or "watersnipe flies" though.

I've got pictures of a couple specimens on this site.

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Jason Neuswanger, Ph.D.
Troutnut and salmonid ecologist
TaxonFebruary 22nd, 2007, 1:56 pm
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You have (3) species of Athericidae (Watersnipe Flies) in Austria, Atherix ibis, Atrichops crassipes, and Ibisia marginata. I believe yours to be Atherix ibis.
Best regards,
Roger Rohrbeck
GONZOFebruary 22nd, 2007, 3:36 pm
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Hey Roger--where do you find your resources on European taxa? (I've looked on your site, but perhaps I'm missing something.) Not that I have any hope of ever fishing there, but at least it might keep me from using outdated nomenclature in the future.
TaxonFebruary 22nd, 2007, 3:46 pm
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European Macro-Invertebrate Database is in the Taxonomy folder on my Recommended Websites page.
Best regards,
Roger Rohrbeck
GONZOFebruary 22nd, 2007, 4:29 pm
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Thanks, Roger. I'd apologize for my lack of thoroughness and lame computer skills, but once one starts apologizing for one's shortcomings it's hard to know where to stop! :)
TaxonFebruary 22nd, 2007, 5:00 pm
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You're welcome. On those rare occasions when I know something useful, I'm delighted to have the opportunity to share it.
Best regards,
Roger Rohrbeck
AndFebruary 23rd, 2007, 6:00 am

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Hello folks, thanks a lot ! I would claim the case is solved
have a nice w/e


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