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BGrnFlyfish	January 23rd, 2008, 7:01 pm
Wisconsin Posts: 37	I have the opportunity to fish the Brule river (border between Michigan and N. Wisconsin) a couple of times this year and also the Battenkill in Vermont. I was wondering if I could get some feed back about the rivers or what its like if any of you have ever had the opportunity to fish these rivers.
	Seth-Big Green River, WI
Jjlyon01	January 23rd, 2008, 7:48 pm
SUNY Environmental Science and Forestry, Syracuse Posts: 71	I live about 5 miles from the Battenkill River on the New York side. I have yet to buy my Vermont license, but I've heard the fishing for Browns and Brooks are good especially toward the headwaters. I have been fishing the Battenkill for about six years and I have learned a lot about it. There are few wild fish to be had on the New York stretch, but i have caught some in the 16"-18" range. The river is pretty wide and deep in most places, but is easily accessed and waded. We have decent Caddis hatches and mayfly hatches from around mid-May to late-June, and earlier in the season a good blue-wing olive or Adams may be key. You will probably encounter many 9-12 inch fish that the DEC releases periodically through early Spring. My favorite spot is located at a DEC release point on Route 22 in Salem ( I probably wouldn't inform you of this spot, but everyone knows of it and I don't mind sharing with fellow anglers). Try a green caddis nymph if the water is clear and there is no huge hatch or a dark woolly-bugger stripped fast across the surface if the water is high and murky. If you need anymore information feel free to get a hold of me or the Orvis Flagship store in Manchester Vermont has a great knowledgeably group of guys there.
	"I now walk into the wild"
Dano	January 24th, 2008, 2:04 pm
Vanderbilt, Michigan Posts: 101	Interesting.... 'Bout 35 years ago when I was in college (NMU) I had a buddy from Iron River and we spent a weekend on the Brule. As I recall there was a campground near Nelma which is where we camped. Any who, this was a long time ago and back in my hippie days so I can't recall a lot of detail. What I remember most is that it wasn't a particularly "fast" stream (out here it would be referred to as a "creek") and that the hatches were about 2-3 weeks behind those I fished in in the northern streams in the Lower Peninsula. I do remember using a modified Adams pattern that I would use on the Black River in Lower Michigan when fishing for Brookies. It was tied exactly like an Adams except that the wings were white hackle tips. At that time it was a great Brook Trout fishery though we did catch a few Browns... I had a Michigan resident fishing license and trout/salmon stamp and I think we had to get a non-resident licenses from Wisconsin, can't remember for certain. Might be a good idea to check on that. Sorry I can't be of more help... Dano
	Eventually, all things merge into one...and a river runs through it.
Smallstream	January 26th, 2008, 10:50 am
State College, PA Posts: 103	when I was a kid I lived in massachussets and almost every weekend in the summer we used to go up to vermont, not too far far from manchester where the battenkill, I never wet a line there but I did go on multiple canoe trips down it, from what I remember it was a very nice stream, slow moving and lots of deep pools. I thought I read an article about how they are trying to improve the fishery because in recent years there has been a lot of degradation to that particular stream. Manchester is a really cool town though. I have heard and read that it is a very difficult river to fish, has anybody had and good success there?
Douglyons	January 26th, 2008, 1:42 pm
maynard ma Posts: 1	I fish the Battenkill extensively. Your welcome to drop me a note with any questions. Short answers regarding some of the comments. The river did see a fairly significant drop in the numbers of trout in the 1994/95 timeframe. Populations did not rebound until around 2000. Since that time there has been a slow improvement in the numbers of trout. The Vermont Fish and Wildlife Department did extensive studies on the river that are available for review at www.battenkillalliance.org - well worth checking out. The primary reason for the decline in numbers on the 'kill has been the loss of in-stream habitat, specifically in the form of woody debris. The river is very similar to the Au Sable in Michigan in that most trout hold along the edges where there is extensive cover from fallen trees. In 2006 a 1/4 mile stretch of river was restored by placing woody debris clusters, whole trees and several rock structures in the stream. Initial results showed a 5 fold increase in the number of catchable trout. Whether that sustains itself remains to be seen but there is a lot of optimism. This past year an additional 1/4 mile of river was similarly improved (contiguous to the first stretch). This fall another section of river will be restored as well. The river is well worth fishing as are several others in the Manchester area. My email is ddclyons1@aol.com - drop me a note and I can help with more specifics regarding hatches etc depending on when you are coming to the river. Take care. Doug

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