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DbinmtMarch 5th, 2010, 12:20 pm
Montana

Posts: 2
Anybody experienced in tying Thunder Creek flies? Any tips? They look good for salmon smolt imitations, but the book doesn't show any specific salmon smolt patterns.
db
WbranchMarch 5th, 2010, 2:48 pm
York & Starlight PA

Posts: 2506
Hey would you please tie me up half a dozen, two each of the rainbow, brown, and brook, #8 would be nice. Pretty flies, takes practice to tie them well. Never saw them for sale anywhere and never actually saw one except for the couple I tried to tie.

Seriously though since your from MT why do you want to imitate salmon smolt patterns? I'm not aware of any fishery in MT that have salmon except maybe some lakes with kokanee.

There is some info on the Fulsher series of flies on pages 12, 42, 178-181 of Joe Bates "Streamer Fly Tying & Fly Fishing." (First edition)

Here are a couple of links of interest;

http://www.chartingnature.com/books.cfm?book=B16829

http://flyanglersonline.com/flytying/fotw2/071105fotw.php



Catskill fly fisher for fifty-five years.
GutcutterMarch 5th, 2010, 3:04 pm
Pennsylvania

Posts: 470
i love to tye these.
first wrap the hook with a flash material (i use twisted krystal flash. this is very optional but i like a little flash under the bucktail. leave a lot of room for the head. tie in the bottom color bucktail and then the top color. these are tied in reverse. measure the length of the overall minnow and that you are trying to imitate and leave enough left over to account for a head. use less bucktail than you think you need. whip finish. now restart a red thread at the back part of the future "head", then pull first the top bucktail over and the bottom bucktail under and finish the fly with as few wraps as possible to make a nice transition between the head and body. it is a bit tricky to do this but it makes for a neater head and slimmer profile if you do them both at the same time instead of separate.
i have also tied a bunch of glass minnows for saltwater and have used various synthetics. polar fibre works well.
again - use half of the material that you think you need.
i like to epoxy the head and then when dry, add a stick-on eye before coating with sally hansen polish. VERY thin layer of 5 min epoxy. i use a motorized wheel to rotate the fly so i can tie a bunch at once and then epoxy them at the same time - much less labor intensive that way.
hope this helps.
how do the rest of you tie them or are you all clouser guys?
gut
All men who fish may in turn be divided into two parts: those who fish for trout and those who don't. Trout fishermen are a race apart: they are a dedicated crew- indolent, improvident, and quietly mad.

-Robert Traver, Trout Madness
WbranchMarch 5th, 2010, 3:23 pm
York & Starlight PA

Posts: 2506
Hey Tony,

Since you tie them I'd like a couple for my display. I can say my friend Mr. Cutter tied them.

"are you all clouser guys?" Clousers For Ever is my motto! I have at least another 150 in another box like this one and 200 more in other boxes.


Catskill fly fisher for fifty-five years.
GutcutterMarch 5th, 2010, 3:48 pm
Pennsylvania

Posts: 470
matt
i will put it on my "to do" list. i usually only streamer fish for trout in the fall. they work great for smallies, too.
once i finish up with about a doz each 26 28 30 midges for this spring. i'm just about done spinning up small and large olives, paralepts, male and female hendrickson, QG, march brown, trico and slate drakes. still need to tye the midges plus a few dozen more big and little sulphurs as well as cahills. it's a good thing i usually don't fish the green drakes! then i'm done and can tie you some thunder creeks. i haven't even started my tarpon flies, but i'm pretty well stocked with those already and probably will only tye a dozen or so tarpon bunnies and shrimp.
tony
All men who fish may in turn be divided into two parts: those who fish for trout and those who don't. Trout fishermen are a race apart: they are a dedicated crew- indolent, improvident, and quietly mad.

-Robert Traver, Trout Madness
PatcrisciMarch 8th, 2010, 2:42 pm
Lagrangeville, NY

Posts: 119
guys, i do like fishing streamers once in a blue moon and my arsenal is rather limited. I only tie/carry/fish a few patterns. Black Nose Dace, Muddler Minnow, The Llama, an olive Matuka and a no name bucktail streamer with a wing of olive, yellow and white bucktail. The Muddler is my first choice when I reach for a baitfish imitation cuz it has been the most productive for me. I carry in size 4 down to 12. Any one else fish streamers and which are your go to patterns?
Pat Crisci

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