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LittleJJuly 29th, 2007, 12:42 am
Hollidaysburg Pa

Posts: 131
I'm not sure if this has been a topic recently or not but figured I'd give it a go anyway. I have recently started trying to fish these things. I've stuck to the old standbys like clousers and wooly buggers. (mainly because I don't know how to tie any others) My leanings so far have been toward a olive/dun or white /chartuse clouser, but i'm anxious to see what some of you have come up with.
Jeff
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MartinlfJuly 29th, 2007, 9:25 am
Palmyra PA

Posts: 907
Jeff, your choices seem like good ones to me. Some folks like a peacock body on a dark wooly bugger. I also like the Shenk White Minnow and the Shenk Sculpin. I've been watching Kelly Galloup's video on streamer fishing and may tie up some of his Wooly Sculpins and Zoo Cougars too.
Louis

Is it not an art to deceive a trout with an artificial fly? A trout! that is more sharp-sighted than any hawk . . . and more watchful and timorous than your high-mettled merlin is bold!

--Izaak Walton The Compleat Angler
WbranchJuly 29th, 2007, 9:52 am
Starlight PA

Posts: 230
Before the Susquehanna bass population declined in 2005 I fished it extensively at least three days a week. Included here are my all time best Clouser minnow producers:

Chartruese over white - gold mylar tinsel & gold krystal flash
Chartruese over hot yellow - gold mylar tinsel & gold krystal flash
Gray over white - silver mylar tinsel and silver krystal flash
Brown over green over white - gold mylar tinsel & gold krystal flash
All yellow - gold mylar tinsel & gold krystal flash
All white - silver mylar tinsel and silver krystal flash
Blue over white - silver mylar tinsel and silver krystal flash

These were tied mostly on Mustad 34007 stainless steel hooks and #4 - #1/0. Tying with SS let me use the same flies in salt water if I wanted to do that. I think SS hooks are better looking but it can be difficult to get the larger barb out of a bass's mouth.

For trout I've used just two colors as I've experimented a bit and found these to be all I need:

Light gray over white - silver mylar tinsel and silver krystal flash
blue over white - silver mylar tinsel and silver krystal flash

I use various style and weight of eyes depending on how much depth I'm looking to achieve. I also use 6' sink tip line for water deeper than three feet. I manually sharpen all of the hook points with a 6" flat jeweler's file. I first re-do the point by forward strokes of the file with the hook inverted in the vise. Then I angle the file to dress each side of the point so when it is finished the extreme tip of the point is needle sharp and the sides slimmed down to allow for easier penetration.

Here is a picture:

[IMG]http://i41.photobucket.com/albums/e277/wbranch/P1000258.jpg[/IMG]


West Branch & main stem fly fisher for forty-two years.
IEatimagoJuly 29th, 2007, 10:13 am
Spring Mills, PA

Posts: 99


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JOHNWJuly 29th, 2007, 1:08 pm
Chambersburg, PA

Posts: 162
I tend toward 4 streamer patterns for trout.
In order of preference:
1 Shenks Minnow in solid white and solid grey
2 Shenks Sculpin in white or black
3 Double Bunnies again white or black
4 Zonkers in white, olive, or black.
Number four is reserved for places Like the Upper Delaware system where I'm able to fish from a drift boat.
JW
Angler by Genetics
DavezAugust 1st, 2007, 12:08 pm
Pennsylvania

Posts: 59
double bunnies. chinchilla/white #2 only

double bunnies. orange/brown #2

a sculpin pattern that I have come up with. It is solid black, wool, bunny and marabou.

thats pretty much it.

open my smallmouth box and its a whole different game.
CaseyPAugust 12th, 2007, 9:37 pm
Arlington, VA/ Mercersburg, PA

Posts: 254
only streamer i ever caught a trout on:

John Hadley’s Mini Bugger—White
hook: tmc 105, size 8 or 10
bead: 1/8 gold-colored
thread: white unithread 6
tail: white wooley bugger marabou
body: pearly cactus chenille
if stream is high or fast, tie weighted with non-lead wire sized to hook
good for stocked fish on a sunny day.
for cloudy weather, tie it in black.
if strikes are short, trim the tail.
also great for bluegills, etc. in your local pond.
Shawnny, take note! little shiny fly for little kid.
"You can observe a lot by watching." Yogi Berra
JMarcusSeptember 5th, 2007, 3:44 am
Bellingham, WA

Posts: 7
We fish mostly a few patterns here for silvers in the saltchuck in the fall. They are either herring/candlefish imitations about 2" to 4" long, rather sparse, lots of white, sparkly filamentous stuff like Crystal Flash and some others that have white, pearl, silver "hairy" fibers,(think of polar bear fur) a tinsel body, maybe a few strands of pink or fushia above the white and something along the line of olive and peacock herl color fiber on top. The bottom whiter part should make up about 2/3 of the bulk of the fly. (Sparse, as I said.) You can weight them with wire or barbell eyes according to need. Eyes increase their effectiveness. The other streamers we use are mostly clousers. The best colors here are flourescent colors like fushia, chartreuse, purple, lavender, pink or combos of these with white or the lighter color on the bottom. Use colors according to the mood of the silvers. (Don't ask, but they can get real particular.)

For a little lake here with wild cutts and some triploids eating Fathead minnows I've found that mini candlefish imitations (see above) from 3/4" to 2.5" are killer. However, they're particular. If they have silver bodies and some silver flash on the sides they love 'em, but if you use gold instead you might as well stay home. Go figure.
J Marcus
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GeneSeptember 6th, 2007, 5:10 pm
Posts: 106Gentlemen:

All your streamer patterns are fine. I have found over the year there is one streamer pattern that is neglected yet it is one of the most effective patterns for brown trout and stocked brown trout too. It's the Black Ghost! I like them on sizes 8-14. In the summer tie them thin and you'll might be surprised at what they take for holdover browns in stream that aren't suppose to have any fish. Sometimes you can use White marabou instead of rooster hackle for the "wing" and it will work better. I actually think it's the combination of the black, white, silver and little bit of red that looks like a lot of dual shading on some minnows.

tight lines and trout that you'll remember forever

gene

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Shawnny3September 6th, 2007, 5:39 pm
Pleasant Gap, PA

Posts: 541
Thanks, Casey. My 4-year-old son already ties flies - I'm sure he'll like that one soon enough. I start some thread on a hook for him, give him a selection of maribou and misc. feathers, and he cuts them carefully and ties them on. I'm sure they would catch fish if you stripped them hard enough through some likely water.

And, Gene, that is a great fly. I prefer the Grey Ghost, but both are beautiful and productive.

-Shawn
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RleePSeptember 29th, 2007, 8:07 pm
Posts: 67For trout, I like a streamer called the Llama, which I think is an Eric Leiser creation dating back somewhere around the heady opening weeks of the Ford Administration...

With it's red floss ribbed with gold tinsel body and its woodchuck wing, it doesn't really look like anything I know of in Nature. But it catches fish, for me at any rate. It may be effective because at last count, I think there are only 16 of us fishing this fly in the entire country and the fish don't see too many of them....


http://www.fedflyfishers.org/FlyOfMonth/images/llama.jpg
MartinlfSeptember 30th, 2007, 7:58 pm
Palmyra PA

Posts: 907
Anyone ever try the Moosehead Belle?
Louis

Is it not an art to deceive a trout with an artificial fly? A trout! that is more sharp-sighted than any hawk . . . and more watchful and timorous than your high-mettled merlin is bold!

--Izaak Walton The Compleat Angler
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