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The Specimen
Brachycentrus appalachia (Apple Caddis) Caddisfly Adult
View 13 PicturesI captured this specimen in the same color as this photograph, during its egg-laying flight. The emergers are much lighter.
View 13 PicturesI captured this specimen in the same color as this photograph, during its egg-laying flight. The emergers are much lighter.Region: Catskills
Collected May 13, 2007
Added May 18, 2007
The Discussion
| Taxon | July 16th, 2007, 1:31 am | |
| Mercer Island, WA Posts: 492 | By the way, what, if anything, do you make of the stonefly species he describes in Nymphs as Acroneuria nigrita? Gonzo- Acroneuria nigrita is but one (of six) Acroneuria subordinate species name equivalents (synonyms for) Hesperoperla pacifica. Here is a gorgeous photo of one taken by an extremely talented Oregon photographer, Arlen Thomason.  | |
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| GONZO | July 16th, 2007, 2:03 am | |
| "Bear Swamp," PA Posts: 886 | Thanks, Roger. I've never been able to track down that name. Now, however, I'm more puzzled than ever by both his illustration and parts of his text. The depiction and the mention of "Hatching on Northeast rivers occurs in late June" and his description of collecting/fishing it on the Henryville stretch of the Brodheads makes no sense for Hesperoperla pacifica. One puzzle replaces the other, I suppose. | |
| Taxon | July 16th, 2007, 9:20 am | |
| Mercer Island, WA Posts: 492 | Gonzo- I would be more comfortable having this discussion offline. I'll PM you later. | |
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| Shawnny3 | July 16th, 2007, 9:58 am | |
| Pleasant Gap, PA Posts: 544 | Thank you, Gonzo, for that hyperbolic endorsement of my inchworm and fishing skills. Everyone ought to know the true story, though: Gonzo was the most gracious of hosts, calmly enduring my shortcomings for many hours and then focusing his commentary instead on the few minutes when everything clicked for me. Despite his occasional razzing of Louis and a few others on this board, Gonzo's a consummate gentleman, and he's also one heck of a flyfisherman (I won't say just how good he is, lest he get a big head about it). He showed me some beautiful water and did everything he could to help me get into the fish. I sincerely appreciate his hospitality. I have another theory about the inchworm's effectiveness. I think the fish might have been so embarrassed by its presence in their esteemed water that they were just trying to clean it up before any other fish were subjected to it, like so many maids sweeping up dust bunnies. Or something like that. I know that, after seeing some of Gonzo's patterns, I was a little embarrassed to show it to him just before tying it on - thank goodness it caught a few fish. -Shawn | |
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| GONZO | July 16th, 2007, 12:18 pm | |
| "Bear Swamp," PA Posts: 886 | Geez, Shawn, thanks--I'm blushing. But I'm also wondering which one of us should be accused of employing hyperbole--I've looked at my post and can't find an ounce of it. It was great fun to meet you, and I'd happily share a stream with you, anytime, anywhere. (Except, perhaps, that tick-infested horror you inflicted upon your new bride on your honeymoon!) ;) PS--Roger, fair enough. (Did I say something I shouldn't have? Again?) | |
| Taxon | July 16th, 2007, 2:14 pm | |
| Mercer Island, WA Posts: 492 | PS--Roger, fair enough. (Did I say something I shouldn't have? Again?) No. It was just that, I am inclined to answer someone's question even when I don't know for sure, but have simply formed an opinion. And, in that vein, the answer to your question was going to get more speculative than I'm comfortable with doing on a public forum. It it easy to forget that our comfortable little conversations, often involving only a few participants, are likely listened to by a much larger percentage of the registered users, and heaven only knows how many non-registered folks, assuming the forum is available to them for listening purposes only, which it may well not be. I simply don't know or can't remember. | |
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| GONZO | July 16th, 2007, 3:12 pm | |
| "Bear Swamp," PA Posts: 886 | As usual, Roger, I bow to your wisdom. And thanks for reminding me that I'm not just chatting with my pals here. I could probably benefit from that reminder on a regular basis, but by the time it registers, it's often too late. :) | |
| Martinlf | July 17th, 2007, 12:42 am | |
| Palmyra PA Posts: 910 | Nice try Taxon, but your gracious offer will not save Gonzo from the style police. --Two parentheticals both beginning with "and," and separated by another "and" clause? Now that's piling up the contractions. Tsk Tsk. | |
| Louis Is it not an art to deceive a trout with an artificial fly? A trout! that is more sharp-sighted than any hawk . . . and more watchful and timorous than your high-mettled merlin is bold! --Izaak Walton The Compleat Angler | ||
| Shawnny3 | July 17th, 2007, 1:35 am | |
| Pleasant Gap, PA Posts: 544 | I don't know, Louis - I think your reaching. -Shawn | |
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| Martinlf | July 17th, 2007, 10:18 am | |
| Palmyra PA Posts: 910 | Now that's ugly, Shawn, just plain ugly. | |
| Louis Is it not an art to deceive a trout with an artificial fly? A trout! that is more sharp-sighted than any hawk . . . and more watchful and timorous than your high-mettled merlin is bold! --Izaak Walton The Compleat Angler | ||
| Shawnny3 | July 17th, 2007, 10:41 am | |
| Pleasant Gap, PA Posts: 544 | Sorry, couldn't resist. I thought that if we deflect your ire in enough directions, we might all escape with only flesh wounds. -Shawn | |
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| Martinlf | July 17th, 2007, 11:10 am | |
| Palmyra PA Posts: 910 | Oh, now I'm the aggressor. After all the abuse I've taken for my inability to get a fish in the net. I"m just trying to keep the discussion on grammar and spelling. Its that simpel. | |
| Louis Is it not an art to deceive a trout with an artificial fly? A trout! that is more sharp-sighted than any hawk . . . and more watchful and timorous than your high-mettled merlin is bold! --Izaak Walton The Compleat Angler | ||
| Shawnny3 | July 17th, 2007, 11:23 am | |
| Pleasant Gap, PA Posts: 544 | You're right, Louis - you're the real victim here. The Man is keeping you down. You got to fight the powahs that be. -Shawn | |
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