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Brookyman has attached these 10 pictures to aid in identification. The message is below.
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BrookymanMay 17th, 2014, 11:40 pm
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Sometimes I think this isn't even a caddis. But soon I will see orange pupa so have always figured they were. Me and my camera have so much trouble getting along every spring. Its around 8mm.


What honking mandibles


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TaxonMay 18th, 2014, 1:36 am
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Hi Mack-

It appears to me to be one of the free-living caddisflies of family Rhyacophilidae, perhaps Rhyacophila carolina. Am not sure the resolution/focus of these photos can lead to a positive ID, but let's see what Dave Ruiter has to say, as he it the man who will know.
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BrookymanMay 18th, 2014, 1:42 am
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Thanks Roger. Me and my camera have issues sometimes. I know you have seen some of the excellent pictures it has taken in the past. I know its operator error it just has to be :-)
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PaulRobertsMay 18th, 2014, 3:33 am
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Isn't that a Philopotamid?
TaxonMay 18th, 2014, 5:01 am
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Hi Paul-

Isn't that a Philopotamid?


Oops, I stand corrected, perhaps Chimarra.

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EntomanMay 18th, 2014, 1:22 pm
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That's my opinion too. The heavily notched frontoclypeus together with the coxal process I think I'm seeing on the left foreleg in photo #5 certainly point to the genus Chimarra (Little Black Sedge). Hopefully Dave will see this topic and sort it out for us.
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BrookymanMay 18th, 2014, 3:23 pm
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We are on a great roll. Kurt I should have noted that it is the left rear leg showing the claw if that makes any difference.



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EntomanMay 19th, 2014, 7:57 am
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Well, the keys don't mention it but it's possible I suppose. For reasons of brevity, keys don't point out all differences, just those that workers find the most reliable or useful. Usually... :)

That's why it's always good to post quality habitus photos that we can zoom in on to look at significant characters. Multiple photos of various body parts unassociated with key characters while sometimes fascinating are rarely helpful. In this case the habitus and the #4 & #5 head capsule photos were very helpful, the rest not so much.
"It's not that I find fishing so important, it's just that I find all other endeavors of Man equally unimportant... And not nearly as much fun!" Robert Traver, Anatomy of a Fisherman
BrookymanMay 19th, 2014, 11:31 pm
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Thanks Kurt so off the record for now should I just call it a Chimarra till I can get better pictures.



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EntomanMay 20th, 2014, 1:09 am
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Off the record? Ha! Once you open your mouth around here you're very much on the record, no matter how many qualifiers you add to the opinion.:) I'm pretty confident with this one, though...
"It's not that I find fishing so important, it's just that I find all other endeavors of Man equally unimportant... And not nearly as much fun!" Robert Traver, Anatomy of a Fisherman

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