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ByhaughApril 22nd, 2014, 3:58 pm
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This is the photo.
Thanks!

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BrookymanApril 22nd, 2014, 5:14 pm
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We will need the photo to be full size to determine genus or specie. Both Roger and Kurt will likely know the best, especially Roger, his knowledge spans almost worldwide. The only 2 mayfly I am aware off that is hatching in this time frame is ( Baetis tricaudatus or the Blue Wing Olive = BWO ) and Ephemerella subvaria on our continent. And I don't even know if these specie are in the Hawaiian chain. Body length measurements from the front of the head to where the tails start is a great help. The wing length is also good to know. Also how many tails does it have ??? Does it have a small or larger hind-wing ???

Does your look like this one ???

This is what ( Baetis tricaudatus or the Blue Wing Olive = BWO ) looks like. http://www.troutnut.com/specimen/664.


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ByhaughApril 23rd, 2014, 2:11 pm
Hawaii

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Sorry,
I know it would help to have a better photo, but this is the best I can do.
Surely someone can suggest an identification?

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BrookymanApril 23rd, 2014, 3:04 pm
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I am very sure that it is in the Baetidae or BWO family on the reasons of the hind-wing being dwarfed in size and having 2 tails.

Now the fore wings have that mottled blotchy look to them. I think that Callibaetis is the genus, and as far as specie we will have to leave that to the pro's.


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TaxonApril 23rd, 2014, 5:31 pm
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Hi Mack,

Although I also believe to be of family Baetidae, it doesn't have the hind wing profile I would associate with it being of genus Callibaetis.
Roger Rohrbeck
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BrookymanApril 23rd, 2014, 6:55 pm
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Hi Roger

What others in that family have that blotchy wing pattern. That's why I kinda thought it might be a Callibaetis.
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EntomanApril 23rd, 2014, 10:02 pm
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Roger is right, IMO. Where & when was this fly collected? Size?
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ByhaughApril 24th, 2014, 9:22 am
Hawaii

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Here is another (better) picture


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EntomanApril 24th, 2014, 7:44 pm
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Hi Byron,

The latest photo is of a mayfly in an entirely different family from your first one. Do you have answers to my questions posted above?
"It's not that I find fishing so important, it's just that I find all other endeavors of Man equally unimportant... And not nearly as much fun!" Robert Traver, Anatomy of a Fisherman
BrookymanApril 24th, 2014, 7:52 pm
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What is this one Kurt, any idea ??? it is defiantly not the same as first one.
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ByhaughApril 24th, 2014, 8:45 pm
Hawaii

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Ento,
I know, but it also is up for identification. Pic. Is a mayfly from Argentina.
Given its speckled nature and that it is from a lake I thought Calibaetis. But it has large hind wings. Could it be related to the Calibaetis??
Thanks
BrookymanApril 24th, 2014, 10:16 pm
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All I can say is it looks like it "MIGHT" fit into the Heptageniidae.
The wing shape are a bit like Isonychia. The hind wing is monster-us.
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