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Martinlf	May 12th, 2013, 7:13 pm
Moderator Palmyra PA Posts: 3233	Yes. Canoeists and kayakers generally disdain and look down on rafters as little other than unskilled rescue risks, so I applaud your genial approach to this one. Great story.
	"He spread them a yard and a half. 'And every one that got away is this big.'" --Fred Chappell
Gutcutter	May 12th, 2013, 7:58 pm
Pennsylvania Posts: 470	"I know it when I see it" Exactly. 'nuff said.
	All men who fish may in turn be divided into two parts: those who fish for trout and those who don't. Trout fishermen are a race apart: they are a dedicated crew- indolent, improvident, and quietly mad. -Robert Traver, Trout Madness
Sayfu	May 12th, 2013, 8:39 pm
Posts: 560	Canoeists?! I have made two rescues while guiding giving up a good portion of my day dangerously dragging capsized canoeists over the side of my driftboat. The most dangerous craft I have seen on freestone, and tailwater rivers in the West. That was year's ago, and my partner, and I made a rescue of two women stuck in a log jam that had been there for hours, and I saw them just before dark. They rented a canoe, and their canoe capsized.
Entoman	May 12th, 2013, 9:43 pm
Northern CA & ID Posts: 2604	Louis - Sorry , didn't mean to infer a relevancy between white water canoeing and rafting. Fly fishing ain't sitting on the bank soaking a worm. Same comparison. Jere - I've seen the same. Renting canoes for white water to tyros is like renting dirt bikes to same for use on a motocross track - with the track in control of the throttles!:)
	"It's not that I find fishing so important, it's just that I find all other endeavors of Man equally unimportant... And not nearly as much fun!" Robert Traver, Anatomy of a Fisherman
Martinlf	May 12th, 2013, 10:13 pm
Moderator Palmyra PA Posts: 3233	Yes, there are plenty of idiots who rent canoes and get themselves into trouble. When I paddled whitewater a lot (which I don't do now) my buddies and I rescued our share of ignorant and besotted folks in canoes. I recall using ropes to swing one end of a pinned Royalex canoe up into the air so the current could carry the other end around a rock it was wrapped around. We then stomped the boat back into shape (though there were a few new wrinkles in it) and escorted the occupants out safely, spoiling our chance to play in the rapids. We considered such people even worse than rafters, as they got themselves in trouble much more easily. There are skilled and dedicated paddlers, many of whom likely have the sense, and control, to give fishermen a wide berth, and there are others--as dumb as the occasional fly fisherman who will walk right in on your fish as you set up to cast. All such should be, as a waiter I formerly worked with once said of a table that stiffed him, "made so they can't reproduce."
	"He spread them a yard and a half. 'And every one that got away is this big.'" --Fred Chappell

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