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Brookyman	December 17th, 2012, 11:04 pm
Banned Posts: 797	OK I will comment on view in the captions for positions. Mack.
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Konchu	December 18th, 2012, 9:45 am
Site Editor Indiana Posts: 496	The only thing that really is going to help here is a close view of the genitalia, and the spines on the ventral face that I need to see (or not see) may not be terribly visible on this subimago. I would hesitate to call this thing fratercula; it was just an idea worth pursuing. In the meantime, I'd call it "Ephemerella invaria group."
Brookyman	December 18th, 2012, 3:14 pm
Banned Posts: 797	Hey Luke So its it safe to say that I should remove and mount the genitals ???. My only concern is I am not the most practiced at removing them and as you of all people know they can be difficult to remove without damaging them. I am more than willing to go forward in mounting them. I just try to keep in mind that if I as a hobbiest have something rare or important believe it should be handled by a professional. Let me know Mack.
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Brookyman	December 18th, 2012, 3:38 pm
Banned Posts: 797	Just one more thing. I have several nymphs dissected and mounted that match this nymphal shuck they are marrked as subvaria. In dissection they look like rotunda & subvaria some parts match one and not the other so I have been referring to them as subvaria variants. There is a constant feature on the nymphs that is not on my typical subvaria samples. They all have a pale mark on the anterior lateral edge of the pronotum that can be seen in the shuck in the original thread. There are other features in the details of the mouth parts. If you are curious about the nymph for detail I can give them to you. I have made a large water color painting of the maxillae that shows signs of both species in it. Mack.
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Jesse	December 18th, 2012, 11:31 pm
Posts: 378	That legitimately does look like ET... On a serious note though some awesome pictures!
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Brookyman	December 19th, 2012, 2:35 am
Banned Posts: 797	Thanks Jesse
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