Troutnut Forum > Specimen Discussion > Anyone recognize this caddisfly?
The Specimen
Apatania (Early Smoky Wing Sedges) Caddisfly Adult
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View 8 PicturesRegion: Catskills
Collected May 13, 2007
Added May 18, 2007
The Discussion
| Troutnut | May 18th, 2007, 6:54 pm | |
| Fairbanks, AK Posts: 1115 | The pictures aren't nearly good enough for me to actually follow a key, but I'm pretty curious. This species was out in smaller numbers alongside prolific Brachycentrus flies. Based on the long antennae I'm going to initially guess Leptoceridae, but I don't think that's right. It just doesn't look like the other Leptoceridae on this site, and then antenna, though long, aren't as long as theirs. | |
| Jason Neuswanger The Troutnut | ||
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| Litobrancha | May 20th, 2007, 1:47 am | |
| Knoxville TN Posts: 49 | definitely not a leptocerid. man you have some interesting looking pics. can you take pictures of the thorax segments in dorsal view? that would help, also wings spread with view of fore and hind wings and genitalia segments. many of these are males and should be identifiable at least to family or genera, if not species. | |
| Jason Robinson Research Specialist III UT Knoxville | ||
| GONZO | May 20th, 2007, 2:12 pm | |
| "Bear Swamp," PA Posts: 876 | Just a guess, but might this be Lepidostoma vernalis? | |
| Litobrancha | May 23rd, 2007, 10:14 am | |
| Knoxville TN Posts: 49 | isn't this the same specimen that i suggested might be apatania? not a lepidostomatid, coloration isnt right and the maxillary palps would be bizarro and hairier. | |
| Jason Robinson Research Specialist III UT Knoxville | ||
| Troutnut | May 23rd, 2007, 11:11 am | |
| Fairbanks, AK Posts: 1115 | Litobrancha, It's not the same specimen, but it is very similar. I've moved it to Apatania for now. Jason | |
| Jason Neuswanger The Troutnut | ||
| GONZO | May 23rd, 2007, 12:27 pm | |
| "Bear Swamp," PA Posts: 876 | Lito--Thanks for that "bizarro and hairy palp" character for Lepidostoma, it's useful and descriptive. :) Jason--As far as I can determine, incerta is the only Apatania recorded for NY. (And the other PA species are not recorded near the Delaware.) | |
| Troutnut | May 23rd, 2007, 3:48 pm | |
| Fairbanks, AK Posts: 1115 | Okay, I'll tentatively place it in that species, then. | |
| Jason Neuswanger The Troutnut | ||
| Creno | December 22nd, 2007, 5:36 pm | |
| Centennial CO Posts: 35 | Folks - I don't think this is Apatania. From what I can see the palps, spurs, venation don't seem right. I am guessing but it looks to me like the maxillary palps are folded up in front of the face and the large three segmented palps you can see are the labial palps. I would guess it is the male of the brachydcentrid you were seeing. | |
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