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GripngrinNovember 27th, 2006, 7:30 pm
Front Range - Colorado

Posts: 17
We have been fishing the lower Gunnison over the last couple of years and read that it has the largest concentration of stoneflies in North America. On several trips we have seen as many as four different stones hatching simultaneously. All shapes & sizes, black, brown, golden, blueish-grey, etc.
What made this river so unique for stoneflies?

Mike
Grip'n Grin Mike
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GONZONovember 27th, 2006, 10:47 pm
"Bear Swamp," PA

Posts: 1003
Hi Mike,

I would imagine that the Gunnison provides suitable habitat for a wide range of species and probably has exceptional habitat for some. Rivers with cold, well-oxygenated water and diverse habitat (wood, rocks, vegetation, leaf packs, extensive riffles or pocket water) often host a great number of stonefly species. Because some stoneflies are carnivores and others are detritovores, a good mix of prey species and plant material is necessary to create population diversity and abundance. It also says positive things about the relative lack of harmful pollutants. I hope you have been able to take good advantage of this plethora of Plecoptera!
TaxonNovember 28th, 2006, 12:41 am
Mercer Island, WA

Posts: 520
plethora of Plecoptera!


Very cute Gonzo; long live alliteration!
Roger Rohrbeck
www.FlyfishingEntomology.com
GONZONovember 28th, 2006, 2:55 pm
"Bear Swamp," PA

Posts: 1003
Thanks for noticing, Roger. Actually, I try to keep a rein on my use of alliteration. I know that some don't share my fondness for the device. As a cautionary tale, I remember the West Wing episode where Toby Zeigler was criticizing Will Bailey's use of alliteration in speechwriting. He said, "I needed an avalanche of Advil!"
TroutnutNovember 28th, 2006, 6:47 pm
Fairbanks, AK

Posts: 1144
Speaking of wonderful alliteration, has either of you seen the movie V for Vendetta? It the best alliterative monologue I've seen in a movie.
Jason Neuswanger
The Troutnut
GONZONovember 28th, 2006, 9:36 pm
"Bear Swamp," PA

Posts: 1003
Thanks for the tip, Jason. I haven't seen V, but now I will. "Best alliterative monologue" sounds like a promising category for the Oscars. Does the Academy know about this?
TroutnutNovember 29th, 2006, 12:58 am
Fairbanks, AK

Posts: 1144
They should add it just for that movie, although I think it deserves nominations at least in a couple of other categories. I don't know your taste in movies, but it is one of the most cerebral I've seen in the "fun action movie" genre. I liked it enough to buy a costume of the main character for Halloween this year, which went over very well at the party!

I have the piece of the script with the great alliteration and I'd be happy to post it here, but I'll refrain if you'd rather see it in the movie.
Jason Neuswanger
The Troutnut
GONZONovember 29th, 2006, 1:49 am
"Bear Swamp," PA

Posts: 1003
Other than avoiding movies that qualify as "chick flicks," my taste is pretty eclectic. (I confess to a strong liking for film noir, and even though I protest at the "cf" category, I'll admit that my wife has forced me to watch a few that didn't totally suck.) I suspect that this monologue made such a strong impression on you for reasons in addition to the impressive alliteration (like the delivery and the context), so I'll wait to get the full effect from the movie. Thanks.

If you want to post a picture of you in your Halloween costume, however, I'm sure that would be good for at least a chuckle or two! :)
TroutnutNovember 29th, 2006, 11:59 am
Fairbanks, AK

Posts: 1144
Then I think you'll like V.

The movie reminded me a lot of Orwell's 1984, although I read that a long time ago so the sense of similarity comes from the vague impression left in my memory. This movie and that book are both about a struggle against a media-controlling fascist dictatorship, but I'm not sure how much further the similarity goes.

Oh, yes, the costume. Give me a moment.
Jason Neuswanger
The Troutnut
TroutnutNovember 29th, 2006, 12:03 pm
Fairbanks, AK

Posts: 1144
Here, this should be good for a chuckle or two or ten:

Jason Neuswanger
The Troutnut
GONZONovember 29th, 2006, 12:52 pm
"Bear Swamp," PA

Posts: 1003
:) :) :) :) :) :) :) :) :) :), the inner Troutnut revealed!
(My apologies to Mike, and anyone else who clicked on this thread hoping for a stimulating discussion of stoneflies!) :)
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