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JADNovember 30th, 2007, 6:51 pm
Alexandria Pa

Posts: 362


I don't want to start a new thread, or Hijack or Low jack this thread BUT-Did you see they make a thread that ------glows in the dark. (Gasp)

Where is Lloyd when I need him( swish) skiing.

john

They fasten red (crimson red) wool around a hook, and fix onto the wool two feathers which grow under a cock’s wattles, and which in colour are like wax.
Radcliffe's Fishing from the Earliest Times,
LeviNovember 30th, 2007, 8:51 pm
Posts: 6I think that they do make a glow in the dark I want to say that Danville makes it but im not 100% sure
JOHNWDecember 1st, 2007, 6:07 pm
Chambersburg, PA

Posts: 342
Alright I'll put one out there.
JAD has a few of these to use in his quest to master Czech Nymphing.

Hook: Curved nymph model of your choice although I really like TMC 2457 in #10-14

Bead: blak or gold tungsten sized to hook


Underbody: .020 lead wire wrapped with a single stip of .015 lead on either side of the shank. (you can omit the side strips and simply crush the wrapped lead and then coat with flecement or similar)

Body: Black DMC floss (#310) woven with caddis/insect green spooled antron. I use both the floss and antron at full thickness to really beef up the body. I use the paraless weave with the black on the dorsal surface and the greaan on the abdomen.

Legs(optional): dark brown mottled hen fibers tied in beard style

Head: Two choices here eithe a fuzzy black dubbing or black ostrich herl twisted in a dubbing loop.

This thing is designed to sink like a rock and stay down so the stream bottom eats lots of them. I have found it very effective on rivers with good numbers of green caddis larva. You can play with the colors to approximate other naturals if you so choose.
JW
"old habits are hard to kill once you have gray in your beard" -Old Red Barn
Jmd123December 8th, 2007, 2:02 pm
Oscoda, MI

Posts: 1120
The following dry flies are standards for me:

Elkhair caddis
Adams
Light Cahill
White Wulff
Royal Wulff

I love the Royal Wulff! It makes an excellent attractor pattern when nothing else is happening. A parachute Royal Coachman has produced for me as well. But that damned elkhair caddis just seems to work almost anywhere for me, so long as there are at least a few caddisflies inhabiting the water.

No favorites as far as nymphs and wets - I must confess that I prefer dry-fly fishing over nymphs, though I have had some nice catches on the classic soft-hackle wet flies that SoftHackle loves so much. Try brown partridge with a chartreuse floss body!

Woolly Buggers - this goes without saying! And my Killer Bass Fly, which has been just about the deadliest warm-water fly I have ever used (OK, maybe second to woolly buggers). I have been waiting for a digital camera to take step-by-step tying illustrations of this fly to post here. In the meantime, a recipe:

Hook: standard 3-x long streamer hook (Mustad 9672 or equivalent), size 4 - 10;

Thread: gray 6/0 or equivalent;

Tail: 4 natural grizzly marabou feathers, tied in one hook shank length past the bend of the hook, topped with 10-15 strands of silver Krystal Flash;

Body: silver tinsel chenille (this seems to be getting hard to find);

Collar: soft webby saddle or hen hackle in natural grizzly, flared back;

Eyes: large silver bead chain, tied on top of the hook.

I have tied variants of this fly in gold, copper, and chartreuese.

Significant fish caught on this pattern:

20", 5.5-lb. largemouth in Texas (silver/natural grizzly);
16", 2.5-lb. smallmouth in Intermediate Lake, MI (copper/tan-dyed grizzly);
28", 10-lb. carp in the Huron River, MI (chartreuse with gold eyes).

Folks, take it out for steelhead and trout and let me know how you do - I've only fished this in warm waters.

Jonathon

P.S. I like Marabou Muddlers and deer-hair poppers, too!
No matter how big the one you just caught is, there's always a bigger one out there somewhere...
Shawnny3December 8th, 2007, 2:45 pm
Moderator
Pleasant Gap, PA

Posts: 1108
That sounds like a nice fly, Jonathon. I used to use a fly that probably looks pretty similar to yours for warm water, and it was a good fly. Since I rarely fish for bass anymore, and since, after all, they're only bass, I won't hesitate to post the pattern here. Here it is:

Hook: Short enough so the collar makes it somewhat weedless.
Underbody (if more weight than the eyes is desired): Weighted near the front and on top of hook so the fly fishes upside-down.
Eyes: Heavy chain, mounted on top of hook (if extra weight was tied in, then the eyes should go on top of the weight).
Tail: One black saddle hackle, as long as you like. Add a few long strands of pearl krystal flash or flashabou.
Collar: Pearl krystal flash or flashabou underneath, black maribou over it, making as seemless a transition to the tail as possible. Tie some maribou behind and some maribou ahead of the eyes to give the head a little definition.

My best warm-water fly, though, is nothing of my own invention, really - just a maribou and chenille version of the black rubber worm. I remember my brother telling me when I was going to start flyfishing for bass that the best bass lure he'd ever used when spinning was the black rubber worm, so I just tried to tie something that would look and act like one in the water, and it was deadly. The first summer I bass-fished, it was the only fly I needed. Here it is:

Hook: Yes.
Underbody: Two or three layers of flat weighting wire, tied at the front of the hook and on top. Taper the layers so the fly doesn't have too awkward a bump sticking out where the weight is.
Tail: Black maribou with a few strands of krystal flash in it, as long as possible.
Body: Dull black chenille, tied into roughly a cigar shape.

That's it. Bass fishing isn't rocket science. Keep the flies simple enough that you can toss them anywhere you want and not worry about snapping them off.

-Shawn
Jewelry-Quality Artistic Salmon Flies, by Shawn Davis
www.davisflydesigns.com
Jmd123December 8th, 2007, 8:12 pm
Oscoda, MI

Posts: 1120
Shawn, your pattern sounds like a "wooless" woolly bugger. Good leach/dragonfly nymph imitation, or crayfish in the right colors. Here's another:

Hook: wide-gap bass hook, size 6 - 10;

Tail: four long Schlappen (or long saddle) hackles, your choice of color (black, grizzly, olive, purple, etc.), tied about 3-4" long, with a Krystal Flash/Flashabou topping of 10-15 strands, either to match or to brighten (silver, gold, etc.);

Ribbing: fine gold or silver wire, or tinsel, etc. for counter-wrapping palmered hackle;

Body: chenille to match tail color, wound neatly up the hook shank;

Hackle: long, webby saddle hackle (or Schlappen) to match, tied in at the front and palmered back to make a nice tapered silhouette, then counter-wrapped by ribbing, which is tied down at head of fly;

Eyes: large bead-chain (for shallower waters) or 1/32-1/16-oz. dumbells (for deeper waters), color of your choice, tied on top of the hook.

This will strongly resemble a plastic worm under water! Fish it the same ways - twitch it, jerk it, swim it, undulate it, etc. The point will ride upward so it can be (carefully) crawled over obstacles - or make it weedless by tying in a loop of 30-lb. monofilament!

Yes, bass may not be as selective as trout, but they can be selective at times, and the right combination of color and movement can set them off. My question is, since northern MI is crawling with brown trout that love to come out after dark, especially the big ones, has anyone here thrown any bass flies at them? The guys at the Alphorn Sports Shop in Gaylord, MI used to tell me to take big Marabou Muddlers out in the wee hours, throw them upstream as "dries", and when they drift downstream bring them bakc in a streamers. Then, false-cast enough to shake off most of the water, and repeat the above. I never did do this, but since Marabou Muddlers make great bass flies, it seems that other large morsels might be attacked by the multi-pound big dudes that cruise in the dead of night. This coming summer I'll have to check it out. And maybe for steelhead? I got a 9-10 weight...

Jonathon
No matter how big the one you just caught is, there's always a bigger one out there somewhere...
LittleJDecember 8th, 2007, 8:19 pm
Hollidaysburg Pa

Posts: 252
Shawn,
haven't noticed the web site in your signature before, but i just checked it out and those flies are incredible, i'm looking forward to seeing more.
jeff
Shawnny3December 10th, 2007, 1:59 pm
Moderator
Pleasant Gap, PA

Posts: 1108
Thank you, Jonathon, for correcting me on my bass comments. What I said sounded derogatory, and I certainly shouldn't be disparaging a gamefish as awesome as the bass. When I lived in Carolina for 5 years, 2+ hours from the nearest trout, I learned to relish bass fishing. And, yes, they can be a challenge in their own way, even if they will never be as refined in their appearance and demeanor as trout are. The difference between fishing for trout and fishing for bass is a little like the difference between driving a Lexus and driving a 4-wheeler - the 4-wheeler may not be the epitome of class and style, but it sure can be a heck of a lot of fun to drive.

-Shawn
Jewelry-Quality Artistic Salmon Flies, by Shawn Davis
www.davisflydesigns.com
Shawnny3December 10th, 2007, 2:10 pm
Moderator
Pleasant Gap, PA

Posts: 1108
Thanks, Jeff, for your kind words. My salmon fly project has taken a long time and a lot of work, and I'm happy to finally be able to show my work to the public. I just opened my site last week, and so far the response has been quite positive.

I'll post a teaser in the photo section (Jason has told me he doesn't mind). If you like my work, please don't hesitate to mention my site to anyone you think might like it as well.

-Shawn
Jewelry-Quality Artistic Salmon Flies, by Shawn Davis
www.davisflydesigns.com
MartinlfDecember 23rd, 2007, 11:51 am
Moderator
Palmyra PA

Posts: 1722
Dick, perhaps you'll find something of interest here. My first East Branch brown took one of my upside down CDC caddis flies (first page of this thread, I think). They work just fine right side up also.
"He spread them a yard and a half. 'And every one that got away is this big.'"

--Fred Chappell
MartinlfJune 7th, 2008, 10:02 am
Moderator
Palmyra PA

Posts: 1722
I'm bringing this thread to the front in response to a question about recipes. There are several in here.
"He spread them a yard and a half. 'And every one that got away is this big.'"

--Fred Chappell
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