Troutnut Forum > Fly Fishing Discussion > Toughest Trout Water, Page 2
| GONZO | July 3rd, 2007, 11:45 am | |
| "Bear Swamp," PA Posts: 876 | James, I've heard many reports of frustration with the "cream caddis" hatch on Pine. But, I've never heard or read (Meck mentions them) any information about the genus/species that is responsible for all this angler angst. Any ideas? If not, can you add anything about size, emergence habits, or anything else that might help to identify the culprits? (Blizzardlike flights of caddisflies are usually mating swarms, and rarely create many feeding opportunities. However, the emergers or egg-layers are often a different story, and identifying the critters may help to solve the problem.) | |
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| Mcjames | July 3rd, 2007, 12:02 pm | |
| Cortland Manor, NY Posts: 77 | sadly my knowledge of entomology is so weak as to be almost nonexistent (although I am addressing that deficiency via this wonderful website). To the best of my recollection, the bugs were about a size 14/16 and distinctly lighter colored than the tan caddis I've often encountered there. It would have probably have been around mid/late May. | |
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| GONZO | July 3rd, 2007, 12:15 pm | |
| "Bear Swamp," PA Posts: 876 | Thanks, James. You couldn't have picked a better place to gain some entomological insight. Your information does help to rule out a few possibilities. Does anyone else have any information about Pine's infamous "cream caddis"? | |
| Wbranch | July 22nd, 2007, 9:25 am | |
| Starlight PA Posts: 230 | The toughest water I ever fished was Benhart's Spring Creek on the Milesnick Ranch in Belgrade, MT. Moderate size spring creek by MT standards; narrower than the Livingston springs and wider than Poindexter Slough. The fish were very shy and one often had but one attempt at a fish. Other times you would have to stand completely still for long periods of time for the trout to begin to rise again and then if you kept your false casts to a minimum, and away from the target, you had a good chance of being able to start hooking up. | |
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| Davez | July 23rd, 2007, 12:13 pm | |
| Pennsylvania Posts: 59 | Rleep, oh my god, i know EXACTLY the creek you speak of. Interestingly enough, My friend is the vet that takes care of one of the farm owners cattle...he allows us to fish there. We night fish it. and those fish CAN be caught. or fish it after a rain. its one of those marginal streams that have sections of gold. back to the convo.... the toughest place ive fished? thats a tricky one. I can;t make judgments on having fished a river once or twice. but thre are some waters I consider "home waters" that have tough fish. its all what you are after- the delaware can be tricky. fish that see a zillion flies and have seen it all. but if you chuck a streamer through there, you will consistently land big fish. falling springs can be a bear at times, but then again, i don;t fish it at those times. the toughest place for me right now is my farm pond. i just bought a farm that has about a 2 acre pond on it, and the bass are TOUGH to catch- well, the big ones are. the darn little ones outrun the big ones to your flies! dave | |
| GONZO | July 23rd, 2007, 1:18 pm | |
| "Bear Swamp," PA Posts: 876 | Dave, you might try my infamous "selective hooking" tactic: fish a fly so big that the little guys can't get it into their mouths! Admittedly this is a bit harder with...well...largemouths. (Just don't try this around Louis, or you'll never hear the end of it!) ;) | |
| Martinlf | July 23rd, 2007, 5:07 pm | |
| Palmyra PA Posts: 907 | Still trying to convince us that you missed all those fish on purpose, eh Gonzo? Tsk, tsk. | |
| Louis Is it not an art to deceive a trout with an artificial fly? A trout! that is more sharp-sighted than any hawk . . . and more watchful and timorous than your high-mettled merlin is bold! --Izaak Walton The Compleat Angler | ||
| GONZO | July 23rd, 2007, 8:53 pm | |
| "Bear Swamp," PA Posts: 876 | See what I mean? :) | |
| Davez | July 27th, 2007, 10:54 am | |
| Pennsylvania Posts: 59 | gonzo, i use that tactic alot when brookie fishing. fish a monster sized humpy so the little guys dont get hurt. bass are another story. I whacked a largie last night that was a total 5 inches, on a 7 inch fly! that would make a 12 incher, right? | |
| JOHNW | July 27th, 2007, 7:49 pm | |
| Chambersburg, PA Posts: 162 | I'll throw my hat in on this one. I find Falling Spring to be a routine stream for me but should qualify that I live practically on this stream so it should be routine. The Delaware system falls in the tough range because of sheer size, the Letort is on the List for the exact opposite reason and both qualify as reality check streams when I start thinking I'm pretty good at this sport. JW | |
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