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This topic is about the Mayfly Genus Cinygmula

This is primarily a Western genus. Cinygmula ramaleyi is the most important species, producing good hatches in the West. Cinygmula reticulata may also be relevant, and I have seen a great spinner swarm from an unsung species, Cinygmula par, in the Washington Cascades.

There is only one Eastern species, Cinygmula subaequalis, and its importance is minor. Read more...

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PaulRobertsJuly 21st, 2011, 9:09 am
Colorado

Posts: 1776
Interesting. It's not a simple, nor perfect, world. Look close enough and you begin to see the "imperfections" -undertones of religious judgment intended. I think Darwin called it "variations", twisting the idea into something we can run with.
EntomanJuly 21st, 2011, 12:12 pm
Northern CA & ID

Posts: 2604
Lloyd & Paul -

Good stuff guys. Back to fishing: Red nymphs! I'm going to tie up some in my heptageniid style in the spirit of pax between imitation and attraction. No beadheads though, I'm not going that far!:)

Kurt
"It's not that I find fishing so important, it's just that I find all other endeavors of Man equally unimportant... And not nearly as much fun!" Robert Traver, Anatomy of a Fisherman
PaulRobertsJuly 21st, 2011, 12:23 pm
Colorado

Posts: 1776
Kurt, that was what followed from my exposure to "the mystery of the blue lobsters"; That maybe trying to mimic isn't always the best way to catch fish. I would love to chat about that one, but I've got to get some work out.
GONZOJuly 21st, 2011, 12:36 pm
Site Editor
"Bear Swamp," PA

Posts: 1681
No beadheads though, I'm not going that far!:)

C'mon, Kurt, I'm pretty sure that you can find some red beads....;)

Here are some images of red form Rhithrogena:

This one is from Colorado.
http://bugguide.net/node/view/262540/bgimage

This R. impersonata is from Michigan.
http://bugguide.net/node/view/470153/bgimage

This R. impersonata is from Massachusetts (notice how the mouthparts are projecting a bit like Cinygmula).
http://bugguide.net/node/view/267308/bgimage
EntomanJuly 21st, 2011, 1:09 pm
Northern CA & ID

Posts: 2604
C'mon, Kurt, I'm pretty sure that you can find some red beads....;)

Ughh...

BTW - thanks for the photos. The Cinygmula looking one sure would confuse in the hand! Looking closer though, it appears to be a membrane of some sort attached to the dorsum, so all is still right with the world.
"It's not that I find fishing so important, it's just that I find all other endeavors of Man equally unimportant... And not nearly as much fun!" Robert Traver, Anatomy of a Fisherman
GONZOJuly 21st, 2011, 6:07 pm
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"Bear Swamp," PA

Posts: 1681
Looking closer though, it appears to be a membrane of some sort attached to the dorsum, so all is still right with the world.

Take another look, Kurt. Check the ventral (2nd) photo of the same nymph.
EntomanJuly 21st, 2011, 7:55 pm
Northern CA & ID

Posts: 2604
Ha! What the heck! Is Roger gluing body parts together on us? You know he is a computer wiz as well as a bug wiz. He does muck about on that other website as well.:)
"It's not that I find fishing so important, it's just that I find all other endeavors of Man equally unimportant... And not nearly as much fun!" Robert Traver, Anatomy of a Fisherman
GONZOJuly 21st, 2011, 8:28 pm
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"Bear Swamp," PA

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Roger is a clever guy, Kurt, but in this instance, I suspect it is ol' Mother Nature who is "mucking" with us. ;)
EntomanJuly 22nd, 2011, 12:56 am
Northern CA & ID

Posts: 2604
Ha Ha!:) I know, I know... You're probably right.... But the silence is deafening. Do I hear soft chuckling off in the distance? Perhaps Washington way?
"It's not that I find fishing so important, it's just that I find all other endeavors of Man equally unimportant... And not nearly as much fun!" Robert Traver, Anatomy of a Fisherman
TaxonJuly 22nd, 2011, 2:32 pm
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Royse City, TX

Posts: 1350
Although I may be silent when I can't think of an appropriate response, it doesn't mean I'm not listening. :-)
Best regards,
Roger Rohrbeck
www.FlyfishingEntomology.com
PaulRobertsJuly 24th, 2011, 1:18 am
Colorado

Posts: 1776
Here's a link to an apparently red R impersonata:

http://128.192.10.174/mp/20p?see=I_DSC488&res=640

I have a photo of an Epeorus with red gills -I believe it was hemaglobin in the gills. Just not enough O2 in that stream tank of mine for Epeorus. Will post eventually.
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