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| Troutnabout | September 16th, 2006, 10:52 pm | |
| Posts: 20 | Jason: When do claspers appear on male species? | |
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| Troutnut | September 16th, 2006, 11:15 pm | |
| Fairbanks, AK Posts: 1115 | Good question. They're present in pretty much their final form in the duns, and of course the spinners have them. I've seen them starting to show on some mature nymphs, I think. The pictures should be somewhere on this site, but I don't remember which specimens. They aren't generally visible on most nymphs, so I'm guessing they start to appear in the last few nymphal instars and don't become really prominent until the dun stage. | |
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| Troutnabout | September 16th, 2006, 11:46 pm | |
| Posts: 20 | Thanks Jason. Are there any gender distinguishing characteristcs during the nymphal stage? | |
| GONZO | September 17th, 2006, 11:24 am | |
| "Bear Swamp," PA Posts: 876 | Jason is right that the claspers can be seen on mature nymphs. In addition, slight differences in overall size and the size of the eyes can be gender clues with many mayfly nymphs (some color and marking differences can also be noted, but you must be very familiar with the species). So, within a mature population of an Ephemerella species, the smaller, sometimes darker, large-eyed nymphs with claspers are males. One practical application of this information with regard to Ephemerellidae is that the males typically mature first (dark wingcases). In the early part of a hatching period, males will predominate. With species like the Hendriksons, which often display significant gender differences in size and color among adults, this can be an important trait when fishing over fussy, hard-fished trout. | |
| Troutnut | September 17th, 2006, 3:23 pm | |
| Fairbanks, AK Posts: 1115 | Thanks Gonzo... that reminds me, somewhere one of my nymph pictures shows those developing eyes in a male nymph pretty well. Again I'm not sure which one, unfortunately. Figuring out nymph gender would be a great topic for a feature article on this site. I'll have to ask some entomologists about more failsafe ways to do it (if there are any) for earlier nymphs. I bet a dissection knife and microscope are required for many of them. This brings to mind one thing I've always wondered about. Many of the Ephemerella nymphs come in several different color schemes in each river. This is especially true in E. subvaria, the Hendricksons. Since the male and female adults are usually different colors, I wonder if the same is true in the nymphs. Are some of the colors only for males, and others only for females? This question probably isn't too hard to answer... | |
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| Troutnabout | September 17th, 2006, 8:40 pm | |
| Posts: 20 | Thanks Guys! I'm taking an entemology study later this week. I'll tryout some of your suggestions when looking at nymphs. Maybe I'll get some pics too. | |
| GONZO | September 18th, 2006, 12:36 am | |
| "Bear Swamp," PA Posts: 876 | That's a good question, Jason. In the Yellow Breeches, Sulphur nymphs (E. invaria) have four color variations--nearly black, brown, olive, and amber. All four colors can often be found occupying the same rock. My guess is that these variations have evolved so that a certain percentage of the population will be more or less camouflaged against various backgrounds (which seems to fit with invaria's adaptability to diverse habitats). I don't think these colors are gender-specific, however. If they were, one would expect that all of the black or brown ones would be males, and all of the olive and amber would be female. This does not seem to be the case. I suspect it is more likely that you might detect gender differences within a color group (dark olive vs. light olive), but I'm not sure. What I can say with regard to Hendriksons, however, is that you can sometimes see gender clues in the belly color of mature nymphs. On the Brodheads, female Hendrikson duns often have pink bellies. I have found fully mature female nymphs (some of which were quite dark in dorsal coloration) that displayed pink bellies. Other families offer other gender clues as nymphs: In the Polymitarcyidae, male White Fly nymphs (Ephoron spp.) have a shorter center tail (which they lose). Females, which mate as duns, have three short tails (which they retain). Among the Ephemeridae, male Yellow Drake nymphs (Ephemera varia), in addition to being smaller and having larger eyes, have a slightly different pattern of dorsal (tergite) markings than females. Because both groups of nymphs (White Flies and Yellow Drakes) are pale and rather translucent, the color of the developing eggs will impart a yellowish cast to the abdomen of fully mature female nymphs. Of course, all of these distinctions are for mature nymphs. As for detecting gender differences in earlier instars, I haven't a clue! | |
| Troutnut | September 18th, 2006, 1:53 pm | |
| Fairbanks, AK Posts: 1115 | Thanks! You've listed several interesting characteristics I didn't know yet. | |
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