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VinlflyfishJuly 11th, 2010, 12:32 pm
northern cambria

Posts: 42
this is gonna start a controversy but whats the worlds bets trout fly
trout; a mans best friend
GONZOJuly 11th, 2010, 1:44 pm
Site Editor
"Bear Swamp," PA

Posts: 1681
Simple, Vinnie, the one that's on the end of your line. After all, that's the only fly that stands a chance of catching a trout for you, and what good is a fly that only catches trout for other people? :)

Woolybuggers, anyone? Hare's Ears? Pheasant Tails? Royal Wulffs? Adams? Seriously, the question is too general to have much meaning, but such questions are always great for stirring the pot, so have at it.

I'll reluctantly confess, however, that if I had to narrow your question down to the fly that has caught more trout weighing over 10 pounds (for me) than any other, the answer would be an egg pattern. But that really says much more about the situations in which I have encountered trout over 10 pounds than it does about anything else.

PS--If Louis mentions the Hairy Honeybug again, I'll....
LastchanceJuly 11th, 2010, 2:20 pm
Portage, PA

Posts: 437
I don't think there is one "best fly" but I guess the pheasant tail is the most versatile for nymphing. Then there is the hare's ear and the--ah, see what I mean? For dry flies my guess would be the elk hair caddis, the Admas, etc. but you're going to get endless opinions. Like Gonzo said, the best one is the one at the end of your line.
Bruce
DryflyJuly 11th, 2010, 2:46 pm
rochester mn

Posts: 133
Too easy, a cornines quill.
GONZOJuly 11th, 2010, 3:42 pm
Site Editor
"Bear Swamp," PA

Posts: 1681
Nice try, Shane. How about the trusty Whathavu Dun?
FalsiflyJuly 11th, 2010, 3:52 pm
Hayward, WI.

Posts: 656
I’m with Gonzo on this………….Well maybe not quite. I caught my biggest trout to date on an egg pattern many years ago, and I haven’t used an egg pattern since, nor will I. I just can’t get myself to accept the use of egg patterns, woolybuggers, muddlers, leach patterns, sculpins, streamers etc. etc. as fly fishing. I suspect I’ll catch hell for my abstinence ( read between the lines if you will), but then again I’m the kind of guy who will set his derriere upon a large rock at dusk, waiting for the hatch, and often times return to the truck after dark without making a single cast.

I don’t have a clue what the world’s best trout fly is, but my guess is it’s a nymph. Yes, I know there are those who wouldn’t consider a nymph a fly either.
Falsifly
When asked what I just caught that monster on I showed him. He put on his magnifiers and said, "I can't believe they can see that."
DryflyJuly 11th, 2010, 8:04 pm
rochester mn

Posts: 133
I'll have to try out the whathavu dun. Although "whathavu" does sound like an actual species. If I ever discover a new species of some kind of bug, I'll name it _____ whathavu.

On a serious note, It is my opinion that there is no best trout fly. Fly fishing is situational. A hopper can be dynamite is late summer, but not effective in early spring. Same for egg patterns, which I have never used. They would not be real effective with no eggs in the drift.

In terms of the most consistent trout catching pattern, a midge or scud would be best as they are in the stream always. A minnow pattern would be effective too. General nymphs (prince, pt, hares ear) work well most if not all the time.
Jmd123July 11th, 2010, 9:28 pm
Oscoda, MI

Posts: 2369
C'mon, everyone has their favorite, therefore the "best" will vary with the person.

In my humble opinion, and that's all it is: a White Wulff, size 10 or 12. Perhaps that's because I had one of the best nights of my life with one recently, but it's far from the only night on which it has worked it's magic for me. Number 2, if such is allowed in this discussion, for me is the Elkhair Caddis. As I have said on previous occasions, your results may differ...

If we dare talk warmwaters - and I know this started out as a discussion of "trout flies" but since quality trout waters are truly LACKING in my part of the globe at the moment - then it's a toss-up between the good old Woolly Bugger and my own Killer Bass Fly (which, by the way, hooked me into a 20"+ brown two summers ago up on the Pigeon...).

Just my own humble opinion, folks...

Jonathon
No matter how big the one you just caught is, there's always a bigger one out there somewhere...
MartinlfJuly 12th, 2010, 9:33 am
Moderator
Palmyra PA

Posts: 2902
I'm late to this discussion, and will only note that the Hairy Honeybug was brought up to meet a specific need of Shawn's for a very quick and effective fly. He seemed at a loss when his brother Duane recommended that he tie up such, so I felt obliged to offer him something. He appears, however, to have overlooked or otherwise misinterpreted my kind gesture according to his recent reply. Oh Well . . . no good deed goes . . ..
"He spread them a yard and a half. 'And every one that got away is this big.'"

--Fred Chappell
CaseyPJuly 12th, 2010, 10:41 am
Arlington, VA/ Mercersburg, PA

Posts: 653
size 16 Royal Wulff. you'll always catch something with it, if only hell from people who think they know what they're doing...
"You can observe a lot by watching." Yogi Berra
Jmd123July 12th, 2010, 7:56 pm
Oscoda, MI

Posts: 2369
I tried tying Royal Wulffs in size 16 once and I found it to be a frustrating experience. You must have slim little fingers, CaseyP...

A size 10 usually works nicely for me.

Jonathon
No matter how big the one you just caught is, there's always a bigger one out there somewhere...
CaseyPJuly 12th, 2010, 8:27 pm
Arlington, VA/ Mercersburg, PA

Posts: 653
oh, tying elaborate little flies is like murder--hire it done!
"You can observe a lot by watching." Yogi Berra
Shawnny3July 12th, 2010, 9:02 pm
Moderator
Pleasant Gap, PA

Posts: 1197
PS--If Louis mentions the Hairy Honeybug again, I'll....


And right on cue...

-Shawn
Jewelry-Quality Artistic Salmon Flies, by Shawn Davis
www.davisflydesigns.com
OldredbarnJuly 13th, 2010, 12:25 pm
Novi, MI

Posts: 2591
Casey,

"size 16 Royal Wulff. you'll always catch something with it, if only hell from people who think they know what they're doing..."


There's no one on this site like that...Right?...Right?

I love your sense of humor! We need more of this between us anglers and a tad less dogma...Right, Spence?! Old dogs, even oldredbarn dogs sometimes can learn some new tricks...If you are patient with them, eh!?

Spence

"Even when my best efforts fail it's a satisfying challenge, and that, after all, is the essence of fly fishing." -Chauncy Lively

"Envy not the man who lives beside the river, but the man the river flows through." Joseph T Heywood
SofthackleJuly 13th, 2010, 8:33 pm
Site Editor
Wellsville, NY

Posts: 540
There's no way I could select only one, however I could list a few I would not leave home without. Of course they are, mostly, wingless wets:
Leisenring's Black Gnat, Leisenring Spider, Partridge and Orange, Tups Indispensible & Weilenmann's Partridge and Olive Emerger.

Anyone remember a great dry fly "Tap" Tapply of Tap's Tips? It was called a "Nearenuf" I believe. It kind of covered a lot of the well known hatches and tied in various sizes, it was pretty effective.

Mark
"I have the highest respect for the skilled wet-fly fisherman, as he has mastered an art of very great difficulty." Edward R. Hewitt

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JesseJuly 13th, 2010, 8:33 pm
Posts: 378
Well its simply got to be the wooly bugger in different colors. It works all year round like most of the flies mentioned above don't. It attracks fish of all sizes. It can be fished so many different ways. I mean i get the reasoning behind a lot of the other choices, but i would have to say they sound more like personal favorites. And i know this wasn't part of the question, but you can catch all species with the bugger which makes it an even more correct choice. Got my vote (and i don't even throw them to often)!
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DryflyJuly 14th, 2010, 10:06 am
rochester mn

Posts: 133
Seriously, the Wooly bugger, seems kind of cliche to pick the wooly bugger. Granted it is a fine pattern.

How about the Sex Dungeon, now there is a fly. ;)
OldredbarnJuly 14th, 2010, 10:28 am
Novi, MI

Posts: 2591
Shane,

Don't get me going on again about the "Matress Thrasher"...We don't want to head off in this direction...Ole Louis will be jumping in here soon and we will all be heading off-course!

Spence
"Even when my best efforts fail it's a satisfying challenge, and that, after all, is the essence of fly fishing." -Chauncy Lively

"Envy not the man who lives beside the river, but the man the river flows through." Joseph T Heywood
ShantiJuly 14th, 2010, 10:40 am
Sweden

Posts: 95
I´m only speakin for myself and not the trout.

But my pattern Hydropsychedelic works real good so far, devised it for the first time about two years ago.
Somewhere, right now, a fish is rising.
And you´re at the computer..
MT319July 15th, 2010, 8:03 pm
NY

Posts: 24
Griffith's Gnat is the "best" fly as it's simplicity allows it to pass for a myriad of different offerings such as a larger individual midge, cluster of smaller midges, ant, bettle, tiny mayfly (especially tricos) as well as a small caddis just about to emerge from it's casing...in larger sizes it also passes for a cricket, catepillar, and dark stonefly. It's ability to effectively imitate Mayflies, Caddisflies, Stoneflies, Midges, and a number of different Terrestrials, in many cases simultaneously, give it the nod as the single "best" fly in my book.
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