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WbranchFebruary 5th, 2010, 10:18 am
York & Starlight PA

Posts: 2733
Considering I might be banned from this site I still took the chance of posting a picture of a non salmonoid. One of a couple of dozen smallmouth I was fortunate enough to land during the fall of 2009.

Catskill fly fisher for fifty-five years.
JADFebruary 5th, 2010, 11:03 am
Alexandria Pa

Posts: 362
Hi Matt
Nice fish, I don't think your going to earn any demerits for a target fish. I think some one from Wisconsin posted some Pike pictures a while back, but you know how that is (If you can't catch real fish (Trout) then Pike will do. That should get a rise---No pun intended.

Will a Carp do.





They fasten red (crimson red) wool around a hook, and fix onto the wool two feathers which grow under a cock’s wattles, and which in colour are like wax.
Radcliffe's Fishing from the Earliest Times,
OldredbarnFebruary 5th, 2010, 12:43 pm
Novi, MI

Posts: 2608
Matt,

A bass like that makes his own rules! You could display that bad boy just about anywhere.

Spence

I have been hearing more and more about guys chasing carp with a fly rod...I'm going to have to look in to it.

"Even when my best efforts fail it's a satisfying challenge, and that, after all, is the essence of fly fishing." -Chauncy Lively

"Envy not the man who lives beside the river, but the man the river flows through." Joseph T Heywood
TroutnutFebruary 5th, 2010, 2:44 pm
Administrator
Bellevue, WA

Posts: 2737
Well, I posted dog mushing pictures the other day, so I would be hypocritical if I didn't allow a little leeway. Let's just not corrupt the place to the point that I have to register the carpnut.com domain name, too... ;)
Jason Neuswanger, Ph.D.
Troutnut and salmonid ecologist
WbranchFebruary 5th, 2010, 9:45 pm
York & Starlight PA

Posts: 2733
The fishing this particular day was fast and furious. I hooked one and my partner hooked another one. So here we were fighting two big smallmouth and I asked him to take my picture holding both of them. We do very well September to early Novemeber but it is very difficult to even catch one like this before September.

The two fingers of my left hand are bent at the knuckles, not jammed into the gills of the fish.

Catskill fly fisher for fifty-five years.
KeystonerFebruary 6th, 2010, 11:45 am
Eugene, OR - formerly Eastern PA

Posts: 145
Super cool. What rod and line weight do you use to fish BASS??
"Out into the cool of the evening, strolls the Pretender. He knows that all his hopes and dreams, begin and end there." -JB
WbranchFebruary 6th, 2010, 12:04 pm
York & Starlight PA

Posts: 2733
9' WF#7 ST with a #1/0 hot yellow over yellow Clouser minnow.
Catskill fly fisher for fifty-five years.
MartinlfFebruary 6th, 2010, 5:15 pm
Moderator
Palmyra PA

Posts: 3233
Just ask JAD what that carp took. I'll bet you'll be surprised. All I'll say is that he rose like a trout to the fly. Carpnut.com. Good one, Jason.
"He spread them a yard and a half. 'And every one that got away is this big.'"

--Fred Chappell
OldredbarnFebruary 7th, 2010, 7:05 am
Novi, MI

Posts: 2608
Louis,

There is a river near Detroit here where a good friend of mine chases smallmouth. He said he was down there last summer and watched as a carp rose and sucked in Trico spinners that had formed mats on the water. I think he's working on a Trico mat fly.

Spence

I was just entering a river to start an evening of fishing...I had a small dry fly on and was squatted down, probably taking the rivers temp, and the fly had fallen out of my hands without me really knowing it. There was a tiny rapids in the shallows and the fly was sucked under and a small sucker took it. I laughed my ass off!
"Even when my best efforts fail it's a satisfying challenge, and that, after all, is the essence of fly fishing." -Chauncy Lively

"Envy not the man who lives beside the river, but the man the river flows through." Joseph T Heywood
WbranchFebruary 7th, 2010, 7:22 am
York & Starlight PA

Posts: 2733
As many of the eastern PA people probably know the Tully has a great Trico emergence beginning around July 01. The Tully also has quite a large population of carp, not monsters like some rivers, but fish in the 2# - 6# class. Once the Tricos have been on the water for about a week and thee are good numbers of them the carp will beging to actively feed on the spinners. I most often see them rising near the bank, seldom out in the flow, it is pretty neat to sneak up on them and throw that #22 spinner on 6X and see them come up and eat the fly.
Catskill fly fisher for fifty-five years.
MartinlfFebruary 7th, 2010, 9:14 am
Moderator
Palmyra PA

Posts: 3233
Yes it is, Matt. I've done it. But with 7X unfortunately. It took forever to get my fly back, and a crowd gathered until they saw it was just a carp, groaned, and went back to looking for late rising trout (most of which had been put down or released by that time).
"He spread them a yard and a half. 'And every one that got away is this big.'"

--Fred Chappell
FalsiflyFebruary 7th, 2010, 10:50 am
Hayward, WI.

Posts: 661
and a crowd gathered until they saw it was just a carp, groaned, and went back to looking for late rising trout


Louis, the next time that happens just say to the crowd: To hell with the trout I’m here to catch carp.
Falsifly
When asked what I just caught that monster on I showed him. He put on his magnifiers and said, "I can't believe they can see that."
WbranchFebruary 7th, 2010, 12:49 pm
York & Starlight PA

Posts: 2733
Hi Louis,

"But with 7X unfortunately. It took forever" When I am going to target the rising carp I take the 7X off and go with 6X as the carp are not as tippet conscious.
Catskill fly fisher for fifty-five years.
OldredbarnFebruary 7th, 2010, 4:16 pm
Novi, MI

Posts: 2608
Another option here is to tie two spinners on the same but larger hook. I've heard them called "mating Tricos" or something like that. You could then use some tippet that's not so fragile. I think Matt said in this thread that they (Carp) may not be so leader shy.

Spence
"Even when my best efforts fail it's a satisfying challenge, and that, after all, is the essence of fly fishing." -Chauncy Lively

"Envy not the man who lives beside the river, but the man the river flows through." Joseph T Heywood
Jmd123February 9th, 2010, 12:10 pm
Oscoda, MI

Posts: 2611
You guys can have the carp all to yourselves - but I'll take those bass any day!!! Why do you think I invented my Killer Bass Fly??

Jonathon

P.S. I've taken all of my bass on 3- and 5-weights - though this year I intend to go after some really big guys with my 8-weight...Still trying to catch a steelhead on it at this point in time...
No matter how big the one you just caught is, there's always a bigger one out there somewhere...
Flatstick96February 9th, 2010, 2:47 pm
Posts: 127
While I'd much rather be fishing for trout, I will admit that this year I'm looking forward to pursuing largemouths with Shawnny's "shad flies".

Scroll down this page for details:

http://www.davisflydesigns.com/whats-new

(sorry, I don't know how to make it a link)
MartinlfFebruary 10th, 2010, 6:16 pm
Moderator
Palmyra PA

Posts: 3233
Good tip, Matt. It was just for a lark--the trout were tapering off, when I spotted two or three big mouths sucking in the remaining tricos. I just wanted to see if I could put a fly in the right spot and get the carp to take. I hadn't thought much beyond that. But next time I'll certainly go for bigger tippet.
"He spread them a yard and a half. 'And every one that got away is this big.'"

--Fred Chappell

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