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WiflyfisherFebruary 3rd, 2010, 12:57 pm
Wisconsin

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Okay, name that bug...

Full view here: http://www.wiflyfisher.com/images/april-stonefly.jpg
March / April hatch in the Upper Midwest.
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OldredbarnFebruary 3rd, 2010, 2:22 pm
Novi, MI

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Taeniopteryx nivalis....Just a guess here...An Early Black Stone?

Spence

I've already hedged my bet due to in only being 2/3...But I'm not sure just how old the photo is...My second guess: Allocapnia granulata...These may be out and about now...Tiny Black Stone...I was just looking at a penny and trying to gauge the hook size...I may stick with my first guess...Just call me wishy-washy!
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FalsiflyFebruary 3rd, 2010, 3:07 pm
Hayward, WI.

Posts: 660
What have I got to lose, I haven’t hit one yet. I would say from the Family Capniidae but the tails should be visible. That leaves me thinking Leuctridae. Those wings do appear rolled but I understand how deceptive photos can be.
Falsifly
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WiflyfisherFebruary 3rd, 2010, 6:55 pm
Wisconsin

Posts: 622
The best I could tell is it is the same bug as what Jason collected. Both stoneflies are from the same river. But mine was from last Spring and Jason's photos were from 2004.

Strophopteryx fasciata (Early Brown Stonefly)

http://www.troutnut.com/specimen/346
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TroutnutFebruary 19th, 2010, 2:26 pm
Administrator
Bellevue, WA

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Looks pretty close to me, although I think there are multiple species of Taeniopgerygids in that river and I can't tell the adults apart at a glance.
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EntomanMarch 23rd, 2012, 2:59 pm
Northern CA & ID

Posts: 2604
I think John is right, the wing venation looks to match fasciata (Mottled Willowfly). The photo is in a bit of shadow so the light mottling of the wings is hard to make out.
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WiflyfisherMarch 23rd, 2012, 4:07 pm
Wisconsin

Posts: 622
Kurt, mine came from the same river and the same time period as Jason's stonefly (although different year), so I assumed that it is the same.

http://www.troutnut.com/specimen/346

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EntomanMarch 23rd, 2012, 9:17 pm
Northern CA & ID

Posts: 2604
Yep, there's the mottled wings.
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EntomanMarch 24th, 2012, 2:09 am
Northern CA & ID

Posts: 2604
Al - An easy way to often tell leuctrids (needleflies) at a glance is that their wings are usually pretty close to abdomen width at mid-wing when fully folded (enveloped is a better word). They're also much slenderer critters than the willowflies.
http://bugguide.net/node/view/442464

Spence - You were closer with your first guess, though Taeniopteryx nivalis (Boreal Willowfly aka February Red) is in a different subfamily. It is also a much larger insect and usually more brownish as the common name implies. The nymphs can be 3/4" body length.

As for you other guess, the easiest way to tell capniids (snowflies) from other little dark Winter stones (besides usually being the tiniest) are the long tails jutting out from under their wings. The others are vestigial.
http://eol.org/pages/613448/overview
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