Troutnut Forum > Fly Fishing Discussion > trout holding patterns
| Mcjames | April 17th, 2008, 9:24 am | |
| Cortland Manor, NY Posts: 77 | the last 2 times i have been out, almost ALL the fish I have caught have come from the head of the run/pool I am fishing, very few strikes from the tail of the pool... All the fish have been browns. Do certain species prefer specific locales? is it a seasonal thing? maybe i'm just too sloppy to fool 'em in the slower water? | |
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| Troutnut | April 17th, 2008, 11:54 am | |
| Fairbanks, AK Posts: 1115 | Fish in the head of the pool get first crack at food coming down from the riffle, so they get to eat that food before another fish does and before it settles down to the bottom in the slower water. My experience has been that fish are more likely to be in the tail if some bugs are hatching or active in the pool and are being concentrated and delivered at an ideal speed down there. A major focus of my graduate research is the question of why drift-feeding fish are where they are. I'm specifically focusing on much smaller fish (fingerling Chinook salmon), but I'm making a lot of use of this paper by my advisor, Nick Hughes, and a couple colleagues: Hayes, J. W., Hughes, N. F., & Kelly, L. H. (2007). Process-based modelling of invertebrate drift transport, net energy intake and reach carrying capacity for drift-feeding salmonids. Ecological Modelling, 207, 171-188. Anyone with access to journal articles (through a university library website or something) should go look that paper up -- it's really interesting. It gives mathematical predictions of how many trout will be in a pool and where they'll be. It's not something you can go out and apply in real time as you fish, but it's an interesting test of some simple explanations for why trout feed where they do. | |
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| Mcjames | April 18th, 2008, 9:02 am | |
| Cortland Manor, NY Posts: 77 | wow thanks for that answer. soon I'll have to pack a laptop in the vest and run monte carlo simulations for each pool before taking a cast. what a cool topic to be doing graduate research on. | |
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| Troutnut | April 22nd, 2008, 1:39 am | |
| Fairbanks, AK Posts: 1115 | It is really cool. Before grad school, I spent all my time playing around in a river with cameras and programming a computer. During grad school, I'm spending all my time playing around in a river with cameras and programming a computer. It's a good deal. If you want to pack a laptop in your fishing vest, I recommend the Panasonic Toughbook CF-30. It's a little big for a vest pocket, but you can pour a bucket of water over it and run it over with a car and it'll keep on working. We're getting one for this research project, along with a lot of other fun high-tech surveying gear, cameras, and sensors. | |
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| Martinlf | April 22nd, 2008, 5:22 pm | |
| Palmyra PA Posts: 907 | My experience suggests that spinners also sometimes concentrate fish in the tail of a pool. | |
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| CaseyP | April 22nd, 2008, 8:56 pm | |
| Arlington, VA/ Mercersburg, PA Posts: 254 | ...so can autumn leaves...went to a favorite pool one October day and had no luck casting up to the usual spot. put my foot in the pool next the leaves that had got caught at the bottom of the pool and all the fish skedaddled away over my boots... | |
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