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JOHNWSeptember 12th, 2007, 3:51 pm
Chambersburg, PA

Posts: 162
OK so I have been reading LaFontaine's Proven Patterns again and the Double Wing has once again caught my attention. I've never tied them but am considering it.
Do any of you have experience with this pattern?
Even more importantly have you noticed a significant difference in performance between it and Kaufmanns Stimulator pattern? It seems the stimulator would be slightly easier/quicker to tie but if the Double Wing is generally more effective then it would be a worthwhile trade.
JW

Angler by Genetics
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SmallstreamSeptember 13th, 2007, 8:36 pm
State College, PA

Posts: 95
I always thought that the stimulator was a brookie fly, is it supposed to represent something specific?
JOHNWSeptember 14th, 2007, 2:16 pm
Chambersburg, PA

Posts: 162
Smallstream,
Both flies are general attractors (in other words brookie or cutt' flies) however the stimulator can also be tied to imitate various adult stoneflies. It is also a passable hopper imitation on less pressured waters.
JW
Angler by Genetics
MartinlfSeptember 14th, 2007, 3:57 pm
Palmyra PA

Posts: 907
John, I believe Jason posted on the double wing a while back. Perhaps he'll point us to that thread?
Louis

Is it not an art to deceive a trout with an artificial fly? A trout! that is more sharp-sighted than any hawk . . . and more watchful and timorous than your high-mettled merlin is bold!

--Izaak Walton The Compleat Angler
JOHNWSeptember 14th, 2007, 10:36 pm
Chambersburg, PA

Posts: 162
Louis,
Read that thread, even went as far as chemically treating a calf tail as someone suggested (with very nice results). I was just hoping to glean a little more annectdotal info before I decide on going whole hog with double wings.
As an aside the treated calf tail will be very nice in my brookie Wulffs.
JW
Angler by Genetics
MartinlfSeptember 16th, 2007, 11:18 am
Palmyra PA

Posts: 907
John, what did you use to straighten the hair in the tail?

I''m tempted to give this a try myself, though I've been using, with good results, turkey T-base feathers (some call them flats; I understand A.K. Best makes a careful distinction) for Wulffs.
Louis

Is it not an art to deceive a trout with an artificial fly? A trout! that is more sharp-sighted than any hawk . . . and more watchful and timorous than your high-mettled merlin is bold!

--Izaak Walton The Compleat Angler
JOHNWSeptember 16th, 2007, 5:46 pm
Chambersburg, PA

Posts: 162
Louis,
I used hair straightening treatment that they sell in the hair care section of the local mega mart.
I bumped the original "Double Wing" post to keep it current. The technique was described by Invicta.
JW
Angler by Genetics
MartinlfSeptember 17th, 2007, 5:49 pm
Palmyra PA

Posts: 907
Thanks, I'll be checking out Wally World soon. With my shiny pate, folks will wonder why I'm spending so much time in the hair care section.
Louis

Is it not an art to deceive a trout with an artificial fly? A trout! that is more sharp-sighted than any hawk . . . and more watchful and timorous than your high-mettled merlin is bold!

--Izaak Walton The Compleat Angler
DavezSeptember 18th, 2007, 12:12 pm
Pennsylvania

Posts: 59
...they both spin endlessly....ya, I know, heavier tippet.... but they both work. matter of taste.

good luck.

JOHNWSeptember 18th, 2007, 10:11 pm
Chambersburg, PA

Posts: 162
Dave,
Naw heavier tippet not required just a slower casting stroke. Yet another reason for a slightly softer rod. ;)
JW
Angler by Genetics
DavezSeptember 20th, 2007, 12:23 pm
Pennsylvania

Posts: 59
JW,

Oh yeah... slow rods AND heavy tippet! speaking of, I have been having fun fishing a grass rod on the pond....

see my post about the yough.. man, the isos have been on.
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